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How The Reformation Changed The Church
frontline.org ^ | Dr. Peter Hammond

Posted on 02/05/2011 11:07:42 AM PST by Gamecock

In the book of Judges we read about another generation which arose, which knew neither the Lord nor what He had done (Judges 2:10). Today, it appears that a generation has arisen, which like Israel under the Judges, knows little of either the Lord nor of what He did during the time of the Protestant exodus and the struggles in the wilderness, which followed in the 16th and 17th century. Sometimes this is from a cowardly dislike of controversy and confrontation. But few people seem to understand either the evils from which the Reformation delivered us or the blessings which the Reformation won for us.

The Reformation delivered the Church from gross ignorance and spiritual darkness The church, before the Reformation, was a church without the Bible. And a church without a Bible is as useless as a lighthouse without light, a candlestick without a candle, or a motor vehicle without an engine. The priests and people knew scarcely anything about God’s Word or the way of salvation in Christ.

Bishop J.C. Ryle described the situation: “The immense majority of the clergy did little more than say masses and offer up pretended sacrifices, repeat Latin prayers and chant Latin hymns (which of course most of the people could not understand), hear confessions, grant absolutions, give extreme unction, and take money to get dead people out of purgatory.”

Bishop Latimer observed: “When the devil gets influence in a church, up go candles and down goes preaching.”

Quarterly sermons (that is, once every three months) were prescribed to the clergy, but not insisted upon. Latimer noted that while the mass was never left unsaid for a single Sunday, sermons might be omitted for 20 Sundays in succession. Indeed, to preach much was to incur the suspicion of being a heretic.

Bishop Hooper, who along with Bishop Latimer was burned alive at the stake under Queen Mary, did a survey in 1551 and found that out of 311 clergy in his Diocese, 168 were unable to repeat the Ten Commandments, 31 of those 168 could not even say in which part of the Scripture the Ten Commandments were to be found, 40 could not tell where the Lord’s Prayer was written, and 31 of the 40 did not even know who the author of the Lord’s Prayer was!

Bishop Ryle summarized the situation: “Before the Reformation was a religion without knowledge, without faith and without lively hope – a religion without justification, regeneration and sanctification – a religion without any clear views of Christ and the Holy Ghost. Except in rare instances, it was little better than an organized system of Mary worship, saint worship, image worship, relic worship, pilgrimages, alms giving, formalism, ceremonialism, processions, penances, absolutions, masses and blind obedience to the priests. It was a huge higgledy-piggledy of ignorance and idolatry, and serving an unknown God by deputy. The only practical result was that the priests took the people’s money and undertook to secure their salvation. And the people flattered themselves that the more they gave to the priests, the more sure they were to go to Heaven!”

The Reformation delivered the church from childish superstitions The Roman Catholic church, before the Reformation, taught its members to seek spiritual benefit from so-called relics of dead saints and to treat them with divine honor. Calvin’s “Inventory of Relics” and Hobart Seymour’s “Pilgrimage to Rome” catalog some of the ludicrous swindles which were perpetrated by the church of Rome. This included pieces of wood “of the true cross” enough to load a large ship, thorns professing to be part of the Saviour’s crown of thorns, enough to make a huge faggot, at least 14 nails said to have been used at the Crucifixion, four spearheads – each purporting to be the one which pierced our Lord’s side, at least three seamless coats of Christ, for which the soldiers cast lots, Saint James’s hand, bones of Mary Magdalene, toenails from Saint Edmund, some bread, purported to have been used by Christ at the Last Supper, a girdle of the Virgin Mary and milk from the Virgin Mary! The Royal Commissioners of Henry VIII examined a vial at the Abbey in Gloucestershire, which was said to contain the blood of Christ! The Commissioners found that it contained the blood of a duck.

There were literally thousands of profane and vile inventions, fabrications and deceptions, which Roman priests imposed on the people before the Reformation. They must have known that they were deceiving the people, yet they persisted in presenting these lies and requiring that the ignorant laity believe them. Sometimes the priests induced dying sinners to give vast tracts of lands to abbeys and monasteries, in order to atone for their bad lives. In one way or another, they were continually separating sinners from their money and accumulating property and wealth in the hands of the Roman church.

The power of the priests was practically despotic and was used for every purpose except the advancement of the Christian faith. It seemed that their primary object was power. To them confession had to be made. Without their absolution and extreme unction no professing Christian could be saved. Without their masses no soul could be redeemed from purgatory. In short, they were, to all intents and purposes, the mediators between Christ and man. To please and honor the Roman church was a devout Christian’s first duty. To injure them was the greatest of sins. One of the indulgences issued in 1498, with the authority of the Pope, claimed: “To absolve people from usury, theft, manslaughter, fornication and all crime whatsoever, except smiting the clergy and conspiring against the Pope!”

A starving man in a famine may be reduced to eating rats and rubbish, rather than die of hunger. Similarly, a conscience-stricken soul, deprived of God’s Word, should not be judged too harshly by us, if they struggled to find comfort in the most debasing superstition. However, we must never forget that it was from such superstitions which the Reformation delivered us.

The Reformation delivered the church from blatant immorality Before the Reformation, the lives of the clergy were simply scandalous. There were brothels in the Vatican. The Popes, Cardinals and Bishops openly consorted with prostitutes and engaged in the most debauched orgies. The local priests became notorious for gluttony, drunkenness and gambling. As Bishop Ryle pointed out: “To expect the huge roots of ignorance and superstition, which filled our land, to bear any but corrupt fruit, would be unreasonable and absurd.”

Contemporary art depicted friars as foxes preaching with the neck of a stolen goose peeping out of the hood behind; as wolves giving absolution, with the sheep partly concealed under their cloaks; or as apes sitting on a sick man’s bed with a crucifix in one hand and with the other hand in the suffering person’s pocket! Such public contempt in art reflects the scorn with which the clergy were held at the time.

Bishop Ryle pointed out: “But the blackest spot on the character of our pre-Reformation clergy in England is one of which it is painful to speak … their horrible contempt of the 7th Commandment … the consequences of shutting up herds of men and women in the prime of life, in monasteries and nunneries, were such that I will not defile my paper by dwelling upon them … if ever there was a plausible theory weighed in the balance and found utterly wanting, it is the favorite theory that celibacy and monasticism promote holiness … monasteries and nunneries were frequently sinks of iniquity.”

The report of the Royal Commissioners, under Henry VIII, declared: “That manifest sin, vicious, carnal and abominable living, is daily used and committed in abbeys, priories, and other religious houses of monks, cannons and nuns, and that albeit many continual visitations have been had, by the space of 200 years or more, for an honest and charitable reformation of such unthrifty, carnal and abominable living, yet that nevertheless, little or none amendment was hitherto had, but that their vicious living shamefully increased and augmented.”

It was observed that: “There is no surer recipe for promoting immorality than fullness of bread and abundance of idleness.” (Ezekiel 16:49) It is from such superstition, corruption, immorality, ignorance and idolatry that the Reformation freed the church.

The Reformation gave the church back the Bible In 1519, six men and a woman were burned at Coventry for teaching their children the Ten Commandments, the Lord’s Prayer and the Apostle’s Creed in English. Nothing seems to have alarmed and enraged the Roman priesthood as much as the spread of Bibles in the local language. It was for the crime of translating the Bible into English that the Reformer, William Tyndale, was burned at the stake. Of all the aspects which combined to make up the Reformation, no other aspect received such bitter opposition as the translation and circulation of the Scriptures. The translation of the Bible struck a blow at the root of the whole Roman Catholic system. The Bible, as the only rule of faith and conduct, freely available in the local languages, was a threat to all the superstitions and abuses of the medieval Roman popery. With the Bible in every parish church, every thoughtful man soon saw that the religion of the priests had no basis in Holy Scripture.

The Reformation opened the road to the throne of Grace The way of salvation had become blocked up and made impassible by heaps of superstitious rubble. “He who desired to obtain forgiveness had to seek it through a jungle of priests, saints, Mary worship, masses, penances, confession, absolution and the like, so that there might as well have been no throne of Grace at all.” J.C. Ryle

The Reformers hacked their way through this huge jungle of papal obstruction and cleared the way for every heavy-laden sinner to go straight to the Lord Jesus Christ for remission of sins.

The Reformation restored Biblical simplicity to worship Before the Reformation, the laity were only present at church services as passive, ignorant spectators. The elaborate, theatrical presentations of the sacraments were a solemn farce because the ceremonies and prayers were in Latin. The laity could bring their bodies to the services, but their minds, understanding, reason and spirit could take no part at all. For this reason, the 24th Article of the Church of England declared: “It is a thing totally repugnant to the Word of God and the custom of the primitive church to have public prayer in the church or to minister the sacraments in a tongue not understood of the people.”

The Reformation gave a Biblical understanding of the office of a minister Before the Reformation, the concept of the Christian ministry was sacerdotal. That is – it was understood that every clergyman was a sacrificing priest. The clergy were understood to hold the keys of Heaven and to be practically the mediators between God and man.

The Reformers brought the office of the clergy down to its Scriptural level. They stripped it entirely of any sacerdotal character. They cast out the words “sacrifice” and “altar”. They taught that the clergy were pastors, ambassadors, messengers, witnesses, evangelists, teachers and ministers of the Word and sacraments. The Reformers taught that the chief business of every Christian minister is to preach the Word and to be diligent in prayer and the reading of the Scriptures. The Reformers taught the immense superiority of the pulpit to the confessional. For this reason, where the altar used to be, the Lord’s table was placed with an open Bible, or a pulpit, showing the centrality of God’s Word in the worship of Protestant churches.

The Reformation restored a Biblical understanding of holiness Before the Reformation, it was believed that a monastic life and vows of celibacy were the only ways to escape sin and to attain sanctification. Multitudes of men and women poured into the monasteries and convents under the vain idea that this would please God and ensure their eternal salvation.

The Reformers struck at the root of this fallacy by establishing the great Scriptural principle that true religion was not to be found in retiring into convents and monasteries and fleeing from the difficulties of daily life, but in manfully facing up to our difficulties and doing our duty diligently - in every position to which God calls us. It is not by running away from the world, that we fulfill God’s call, but by courageously resisting the devil, the flesh and the world and overcoming them in daily life. That is how true holiness is to be exhibited. For this reason, the Reformers dissolved the monasteries and convents in their areas and freed the inmates to be reintegrated into normal life.

The Reformers also ordered that the Ten Commandments be set up in every parish church and taught to every child, and that our duty towards God and our neighbor be set forth in the Catechism. They insisted that you cannot become saints by shirking your duties in society.

A Heritage of Faith and Freedom We must continually thank God for the Reformation. It lit the flames of knowledge and freedom which we must ensure are never allowed to be extinguished or to grow dim. We need to continually remember that the Reformation was won for us by the blood of many tens of thousands of martyrs. It was not only by their preaching and praying, and writing and legislation, but by their sacrifices that our religious liberty, freedom of conscience and Christian heritage was won.

The Reformation found church members steeped in ignorance and left them in possession of knowledge. It found them without Bibles and left them with the Bible in every parish. It found them in darkness and left them in light. It found them bound in fear and left them enjoying the liberty and peace which only Christ can give. It found them strangers to the blood of Christ’s atonement, to faith, grace and holiness and left them with the key of all those blessings in their hands. It found them blind and left them with spiritual eyes to see. It found them slaves to superstition and set them free to serve Christ.

As Bishop Ryle declared: “Are we to return to a church which boasts that she is infallible and never changes – to a church which has never repented her pre-Reformation superstitions and abominations – to a church which has never confessed and abjured her countless corruptions? Are we to go back to gross ignorance of true religion? Shame on us, I say, if we entertain the idea for a moment! Let the Israelite return to Egypt, if he will. Let the prodigal go back to his husks among the swine. Let the dog return to his vomit. But let no Englishman with brains in his head, ever listen to the idea of exchanging Protestantism for Popery, or returning to the bondage of the church of Rome. No, indeed! … God forbid! The man who counsels such base apostasy and suicidal folly, must be judicially blind. The iron collar has been broken; let us not put it on again. The prison has been thrown open; let us not resume the yoke and return to our chains … Let us not go back to ignorance, superstition, priestcraft and immorality.”

If you have a Bible in your own language, and enjoy to read and study God’s Word, never forget that you owe that Bible to the Reformation. Brave men and women died that you could have the freedom to delight in God’s Word.

If you know the joy of sins forgiven and new life in Christ, if you are walking by faith and enjoying peace with God, never forget that you owe this priceless privilege to the Reformation.

If you enjoy Church services, Scripture choruses, Hymns, prayers and sermons in your own language, remember that for this you are also indebted to the Reformation.

If you appreciate the Biblical and practical sermons of your pastor, and his counsel, never forget that for this you are indebted to the Reformation. The Reformation is the source of many blessings. We need to ask if we are on the side of the Reformers, or of those who burned them and the Bible. “… Contend earnestly for the Faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.” Jude 3


TOPICS: General Discusssion; History; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: catholicbashing; reformation; revisionisthistory
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To: IrishCatholic
The stench fills my nostrils with the vileness being spewed by people pretending to be Christians but act more like Satan.

From your page:

"But regardless, it speaks poorly of you to denigrate another’s faith. I wouldn’t do it to someone who is of a Protestant denomination."

And yet, here you are doing it, not once but thrice.

161 posted on 02/05/2011 6:17:46 PM PST by xone
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To: xone; IrishCatholic

he is reacting to hateful comments, he is not attacking the doctrines of a particular Protestant denomination. if X makes a hateful comment or lies about the Church and happens to be a Baptist, it is fair game to call out X for the comments, without attributing them to all Baptists. that is what IC is doing.


162 posted on 02/05/2011 6:22:36 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Quix
HE HAS ALREADY DEMONSTRATED REPEATEDLY THAT HE DOES KNOW ME PERSONALLY

I've always believed that He has an outstanding sense of humour.

163 posted on 02/05/2011 6:28:00 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: xone

No. That is a mischaracterization unless you are claiming their “faith” is lying about the Catholic Church.

Nice try though.


164 posted on 02/05/2011 6:29:24 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Quix
Actually, I don’t observe any hate from the Proddys.

You might want to up the prescription of your glasses.

I observe a lot of petty, chronic, personal, assaultive, bitter, resentful, hostile, scratchy, hypocritical, stinky hate from some RC’s. Somewhat relentlessly.

Or at least clean them.

165 posted on 02/05/2011 6:29:30 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: narses

I appreciate that you think I may have something to add or say here, but I will not wade into this lion’s den.

The post was intended as bait, apparently someone is spoiling either for a fight or a Catholic bashing orgy with his buddies on FR whom he knows will be receptive.

Unfortunately, some have fallen into the trap and played right into his hands. It’s a shame really, for as Shakespeare said, “sound and fury, signifying nothing.”

The truth is there to behold, let them abandon their hatred and seek it out.


166 posted on 02/05/2011 6:29:37 PM PST by Jvette
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To: IrishCatholic; Gamecock
I have hope you will repent and come to love Christ instead of spending all your energy in hating his followers.

Hating His followers? Are you a follower of Christ or a church?

You are not an honest person and not a good person. That’s your weight to carry...You are so twisted up inside in darkness and in evil you need to let it go .....you root with pigs, that makes you one too.”......you post it on purpose because you are a bigot....you are a Catholic Hating scumbag....I simply mark you as a Christ hating person and lump you with other thorns among the roses here.

These are snippets of your posts and it shows what the RCC produces. And nothing to do with a follower of Christ. You proved the article here and the vileness of Rome is still alive.

Gamecock - great article. We owe much to Luther, Tyndale and others for their hardship and persecution for HIS Name's sake and for our benefit. Thank YOU God for Your Word. Thank YOU, Jesus.
167 posted on 02/05/2011 6:29:41 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Quix
news to me.

I trust that you've heard of Popoff, Roberts and Humbug, haven't you?

168 posted on 02/05/2011 6:31:13 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: Vegasrugrat

Thank you.

God Bless you too.


169 posted on 02/05/2011 6:32:42 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: sasportas
My post was referring to the tyranny of the Papacy in the time of the reformation...and you know it. While the Papists work extra hard nowadays to hide it, were you to have the power you once had, everybody would see that you haven’t changed your stripes at all. You would revert back to the same old tyrannical and persecuting institution that you once were. Thank God for America and our freedoms that were primarily given us to protect us from this very thing!

You may wish to read up on the theological tyrannies that sprang up in the colonies - I believe 10 of the 13 had a state religion and practiced executions against their religious opponents. You might ask the Quakers or the Baptists what they thought of their treatment at the hands of the Puritans in Massachussetts.

We are exterminating the Christians from places like Iraq, Egypt, and the Balkans by direct policy of the US in favour of the Muslims. Go ask the Chaldeans and the Copts their current opinion of the US.

170 posted on 02/05/2011 6:35:47 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
You sent this post to me. WHY?

scoutdad, the guns will now be turned on you. maybe this is why people with your viewpoint don’t post, they have all been driven away by the crazies.

And while you are telling me 'why' - explain what is crazy about my post. If you are so repellent to God's Word, say so. Don't beat around the bush.

It's not about us - It's about God's Word which is perfect. And I thank Luther and Tyndale for being obedient to God's calling much to the chagrin of the Vatican. The gates of hell shall not prevail against His Church which is based on HIS WORD alone.
171 posted on 02/05/2011 6:37:15 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

That is the essence of liars. Take snippets. Twist them. Ignore context. Etc.

The vileness here is all yours. What I have posted is my disgust at evil and those that feed on it.


172 posted on 02/05/2011 6:38:23 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic
I noticed you skipped the part about the “Know Nothings” from my home page. Lies by omission. Lies by lack of context. Did you skip it on purpose? The bigot definition is accurate. The fact you accessed my home page is ironic as you just proved why it's there. Pitiful.

I didn't skip it, I read it all, I just thought the section I posted was adequate to show that you do what you condemn in others. The bigot definition is "sorta" accurate but, of course, because of your own demonstrated bigotry, you only think you aren't and everyone with whom you disagree is. A good word for that is "hypocrite".

173 posted on 02/05/2011 6:38:28 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
he is not attacking the doctrines of a particular Protestant denomination.

So that explains the coven comment? And then going after the next few? Please, that is a very weak excuse.

that is what IC is doing.

Anyone can see what he is doing. In general I have no problem with it as it is a fairly common response when one can't discuss the article. But then I don't have a homepage full of claims about what I wouldn't do. When you want to claim 'I'd never', it has to be never.

174 posted on 02/05/2011 6:38:39 PM PST by xone
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; ...
IN SHARP contrast

to the RC's on FR

PRODDYS

have long been backing up what we write--with facts. e.g.

only 26% of [Roman et al] Catholics strongly agree that The Bible is totally accurate in all that it teaches

only 33% of American [Roman eg al] Catholics strongly affirm that Christ was sinless on earth

" . . . only 9% of [Roman et al] Catholics strongly DISAGREE that if a person is generally good, or does enough good things for others they will earn a place in Heaven [salvation on the basis of merit]."

" . . . only 17% of [Roman et al] Catholics strongly DISAGREE that Satan is just a symbol of evil [rather than a real being]"

" . . . only 43% of [Roman et al] Catholics said they were absolutely committed to Christianity,"

"Volunteer church work (during past 7 days): Assemblies of God were highest at 30%, with the lowest going to Catholics at 12%.^8"

72% of Protestants vs 42% of [Roman et al] Catholics affirmed that homosexual sexual activity was sinful.

79% of [Roman et al] Catholics affirmed "Many religions can lead to eternal life."

"40% of Roman Catholics see abortion as "morally acceptable"

"88% of [Roman et al] Catholics believe that they can practice artificial means of birth control and still be considered good [Roman et al] Catholics."

"Only 30% of Catholics affirmed they believe they are really and truly receiving the body, blood, soul and divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ under the appearance of bread and wine."

Only "26 percent of [Roman et al] Catholics polled strongly agree with the Church's unequivoval position on abortion. Catholic World Report; Roper Center for Public Opinion Research at the University of Connecticut."

"Only 20 percent strongly agreed with the Church teaching that only men may be ordained. ^Roper Center for Public Opinion "

"Catholic women have an abortion rate 29 percent higher than Protestants. Alan Guttmacher Institute http://www.catholicleague.org/research/Catholic_women_and_abortion.htm

The above gathered from:

http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.html#Sec4


OK, RC'S start your ENGINES
. . . errr start your WEASEL WORDS AND RATIONALIZATIONS!

175 posted on 02/05/2011 6:38:57 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: IrishCatholic
That is a mischaracterization

Of course it is. Never.

176 posted on 02/05/2011 6:40:01 PM PST by xone
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To: Scoutdad

I appreciate your many good points.

I have great fellowship with a number of RC’s who put GOD AND SCRIPTURE FIRST in their lives and live, post and act like it.


177 posted on 02/05/2011 6:41:48 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: HossB86

Hmmmmmmm


178 posted on 02/05/2011 6:42:59 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: presently no screen name

I think that what Luther and Tyndale both did, bringing the Scriptures to us in the tongues of the common man has brought immeasurable benefit to the Body of Christ both Catholic and Protestant. Luther, although far from perfect was used by God. The Word is the embodiment of our Lord Jesus, it reveals Him to us and as Timothy says is profitable for doctrine, reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness.
I do not profess to understand all of the ins and outs of sola scriptura but I will say this. There are Christians who will use the word as a weapon against others, even believers. When Hebrews says that the Word of God is a two-edged sword we need to realize that the heart that it is most looking to pierce is our own. When we look to use it on others we are apt to go astray.
What’s lost sight of by Catholic and Protestant alike is the ministry of the Holy Spirit in the life of every believer. Having the written word but not operating under the direction of the Spirit can lead to gross error. We need to internalize this: a Pharasee asked Jesus what was the greatest commandment. The answer The greatest is to love God with your heart and soul. The second greatest is to love your neighbor as yourself. God does not need us to defend His Word. It stands on its own.


179 posted on 02/05/2011 6:45:06 PM PST by Scoutdad
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To: xone

Still a mischaracterization. This time it is worse because you were informed it was, and you also mention my home page where I specifically separated the Know Nothings from honest Christians.

I have no idea if the Know Nothings share a particular denomination. For all I know the only thing they share is their hatred of Christ’s Church.

So, strike two.


180 posted on 02/05/2011 6:45:14 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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