Posted on 01/18/2011 10:47:30 AM PST by wmfights
“Two thousand years of history have shown the Jewish people that Christians are their worst enemies, a Messianic rabbi pointed out. “Jews were told you must convert or be killed...” Strange how Jews forget that whole Jews persecuting Christians thing.
“Jewish Pentacostal”? You guys just make stuff up now?
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Keep it to yourselves, JfJs.
It’s difficult to compare 37 years of persecution (from 33 to 70 AD) with almost 2,000 years of the same. It’s a sad fact that antisemitism is alive and well among some Christians to this day. In Europe if you mention the word “Jew” to your typical Pole, Hungarian, Frenchman, or Spaniard you may be shocked at the reaction. Certainly not universal, and it’s more the exception than the rule in America, but it hasn’t entirely died.
Actually, Jewish people never cared about non-Jewish Christians, merely heretical Jewish people.
As a fan and defender of the Inquisition, surely you can undestand that.
So the typical Pole, Hungarian, Frenchman or Spainard is a Christian? Funny, but that attitude is exactly what this article is pointing out. The persecution of the Jews by “Christians” in the past and even today is largely done by those who are not actually Christians.
Unlike Judiasm, being born into a family that proclaims Christ does not mean you are a Christian. True Christians, by definition, cannot hate Jews. If you see someone who claims Christ, but who hates Christ’s people, you’re dealing with someone who has not been indwelt by the Holy Spirit of God and is, therefore, not a Christian.
And if that upsets some who claim Christ, but hate the Jews, that’s just tough. Your argument is with God, not me. Take it up with Him.
You wrote:
“It’s difficult to compare 37 years of persecution (from 33 to 70 AD) with almost 2,000 years of the same.”
Well, since there wasn’t 2,000 years of the “same” no I don’t find it so hard to compare.
“It’s a sad fact that antisemitism is alive and well among some Christians to this day.”
Among some, yes. And anti-Christian hatred is alive and well among some Jews.
“In Europe if you mention the word “Jew” to your typical Pole, Hungarian, Frenchman, or Spaniard you may be shocked at the reaction.”
Having been to Europe 8 times no, I don’t think most Europeans could shock me and I think they rarely think of Jews in the first place.
“Certainly not universal, and it’s more the exception than the rule in America, but it hasn’t entirely died.”
It never will.
I can’t understand how truth can be heresy. Jesus Christ is the Messiah.
Why? If you’re certain that Judiasm is the correct way and not Christianity, why are you afraid of Messianic Jews preaching the Gospel? If your religion is worth defending, then do so.
After all, what did Gamaliel tell the other Pharasees when speaking of Peter and the Apostles, you know, the original Jews for Jesus?
“...Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.” Acts 5:38-39
Obviously, opinions differ, just as Protestants think Roman Catholics are all wet for thinking mary was a sinless being and vice versa.
Legtimate disagreements.
Difference being, Jewish people grew up and stopped trying to impose their religion by force.
Christians are polytheists.
(How’s that sound? Want to go down this road?)
For the record, I think Christianity is great for Christians. Faith is what it is: Faith, not Science.
So, let’s not argue amongst the Faithful who have no current animosity. You have yours, I’ll have mine, and we’ll have a nice cup of coffee.
But try to convert me, and I’ll smile, politely close that conversation and move on. If you’re unable to leave well enough alone after that, you’re rude, and I’ll ignore you and your bad manners.
I'm no scholar, so help me out here. Did Jews ever try to impose Judaism on anyone else?
I'm just historically ignorant on that one.
No more than Moses was.
(Bring it.)
I can step in here on this one. To the best of my knowledge, it’s actually against the ideals of Judaism to try to force the worship of YHWH on anyone. After all, forced worship is worthless to One who can see the inner thoughts of a man.
The same is true of Christian ideals. The practice of forced conversions is not in keeping with the idea that God sees the inner thoughts of a man and a forced conversion is meaningless.
“. Did Jews ever try to impose Judaism on anyone else?”
Well, Jewish people obviously objected to fellow Jewish people who lapsed, became pagan, or Christian, and aggressive action was often taken.
But, I do agree, Judaism was never imposed by the sword on non-Jewish people like most other religions do.
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