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To: G Larry

I take it that you are one of those who believe that once you are saved, if you sin, you can lose your salvation. I hate to throw a wet blanket here but you are going to sin today. In all of history there is only ONE PERSON who did not sin. By grace we are saved and even that is a gift from God. When you appear in front of the throne you will not be asked anything about “sin”. The only question will be, “what did you do with/about MY SON? Sins count for nothing as they were hung on the cross and paid for with blood. forever/future, not just that one you did today. And guess what, the one you will do tomorrow is already paid for.


30 posted on 01/15/2011 11:24:31 AM PST by fish hawk (reporter to old Indian: you lived here on the reservation all your life? Old Indian, "not yet".)
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To: fish hawk

Fish Hawk, I take it you are one of those who read none of the passages I referenced, or you wouldn’t charge the conclusions just cited.
Further, you seem take comfort in the term “Salvation” with no apparent understanding of it’s meaning.
We can do nothing to reverse the effects of Original Sin.
Christ’s sacrifice provided Salvation, “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from you; it is the gift of God.”
As humans we are quite capable of rejecting this gift!
“faith without love is nothing”
“if you love me, keep my commandments”
“if you wish to enter into life, keep my commandments”
AND, Heb 10:26-30
“If we sin deliberately after receiving knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins but a fearful prospect of judgement and a flaming fire that is going to consume the adversaries.
Anyone who rejects the law of Moses is put to death without pity on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Do you not think that a much worse punishment is due the one who has contempt for the Son of God, considers unclean the covenant-blood by which he was consecrated, and insults the spirit of grace? We know the one who said: “Vengenance is mine; I will repay,” and again: “The Lord will judge his people.”
Rather a “tissue” than a “wet blanket”, I’d say.....


32 posted on 01/15/2011 1:20:27 PM PST by G Larry
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To: fish hawk

Beans!

Post #33 was meant for you.


34 posted on 01/15/2011 1:40:45 PM PST by G Larry
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To: fish hawk; G Larry
1. By grace we are saved and even that is a gift from God -- correct. Yet losing salvation does not deny that fact that everything is from God

2. Scripture teaches that one’s final salvation depends on the state of the soul at death. As Jesus himself tells us, "He who endures to the end will be saved" (Matt. 24:13; cf. 25:31–46). One who dies in the state of friendship with God (the state of grace) will go to heaven. The one who dies in a state of enmity and rebellion against God (the state of mortal sin) will go to hell.

3. Christ died for us and appears before God on our behalf. He has provided sufficiently for our salvation yet note that it is necessary for those who hear the gospel to "repeant and believe" or else we would have no need to be born again.

4. Paul notes this in "See then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off" (Rom. 11:22;

5. Jesus declared: ‘Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord" shall enter the kingdom of heaven’ (Matt. 7:21)."

6. Sins against the Holy Spirit, i.e. grace sins, mortal sins are not forgiven in this age or the next, yet for others, Christ's blood washes aways the sins of those who truly repent and believe and sin no more.

7. Paul again "I pummel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified" (1 Cor. 9:27).
50 posted on 01/17/2011 2:02:00 AM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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