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To: aruanan; Dr. Eckleburg
What Luther thought!!
“Oh, crap. This makes everything in human existence and even in scripture that appears to depend on contingency, or choice, a complete illusion within a totally deterministic universe where even my thoughts about illusion, determinism, and choice are determined, and even worse than that because what would have been the point of it all to begin with? For God’s praise and glory? Praise and glory from whom? From some sort of intra-trinitarian blackslapping? Or from automata who, like the cuckoo popping out of the clock on the hour, say “Praise and glory. Praise and glory” with no more awareness or understanding or will than the wooden cuckoo has of clock-making and timekeeping?”


ha! ha! It was left to the French lawyer CAlvin and the cheese-eating surrender monkeys that are the followers of Calvin to make their entire non-Christian theology based on that point!!
3,388 posted on 02/14/2011 12:12:45 AM PST by Cronos ("They object to tradition saying that they themselves are wiser than the apostles" - Ire.III.2.2)
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To: Cronos
What Luther thought!!

Based on the big shift from what he wrote in The Bondage of the Will and his position and that of the Lutherans later.
3,389 posted on 02/14/2011 9:48:23 AM PST by aruanan
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