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The Not So Secret Rapture
reformed.org ^ | W. Fred Rice

Posted on 01/14/2011 5:57:52 PM PST by topcat54

Evangelical book catalogs promote books such as Planet Earth: The Final Chapter, The Great Escape, and the Left Behind series. Bumper stickers warn us that the vehicle’s occupants may disappear at any moment. It is clear that there is a preoccupation with the idea of a secret rapture. Perhaps this has become more pronounced recently due to the expectation of a new millennium and the fears regarding potential Y2K problems. Perhaps psychologically people are especially receptive to the idea of an imminent, secret rapture at the present time. Additionally, many Christians are not aware that any other position relative to the second coming of Jesus Christ exists. Even in Reformed circles there are numerous people reading these books. Many of these people are unaware that this viewpoint conflicts with Scripture and Reformed Theology.

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TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: crusades; endtimes; eschatology; rapture
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To: Judith Anne

LOL They are just babes in the woods compared to some of the Pit bull threads I’ve been on..have a great day..:O)


1,481 posted on 01/20/2011 1:40:37 PM PST by goat granny
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To: goat granny

You too, FRiend. ;-D


1,482 posted on 01/20/2011 1:41:24 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: topcat54; metmom
It is my understanding that at the first church is was arrested on a charge involving a minor and ended up pleading guilty to disorderly conduct. A background check would reveal any criminal activity, no?

A background check would reveal the disorderly conduct conviction. The individual would have to explain the conviction.

If the freak managed to get a slap on the wrist by the courts (Ceaser), it's still not the same as a Church cover up.

Show me where a Protestant organization has moved a pervert from place to place and facilitated the molestation of children. That's what we've been talking about...

1,483 posted on 01/20/2011 1:59:59 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Cronos; metmom
Ok, boatbums, here’s another one to show you what reason inquisition tactics are — by a non-Christian to boot.

Just so you know, I am not keeping track of your "recent inquisition tactics are". They are meaningless and, in my opinion, smack of whining. And who are you to call someone a "non-Christian"? If you are implying Metmom is not a Christian, then you are clearly misinformed. I have no doubts about her faith.

1,484 posted on 01/20/2011 2:16:56 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Quix

No, I had not seen your assertions. Sorry.

As to when the two folds became one it would seem to me that that occurred at Pentecost.

Paul sure talks much about that “mystery”.


1,485 posted on 01/20/2011 2:17:06 PM PST by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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To: Quix
“It’s virtually ALWAYS—circle the wagons, DENY, DENY, DENY AND RATIONALIZE RATIONALIZE RATIONALIZE AND THEN CRUCIFY THE MESSENGER AND BLAME PRODDYS”

That's a massively blatantly piece of steaming folderol from all y'all.

The Church has been in the news for quite some time addressing the charges.

The problem is that all y'all REFUSE to look at what the church has done to change and because it interferes with all y'all’ narrative of Pharisaical purity and holiness you continue to flog the same robotic lines over and over.

REMOVE THE DARN PLANK IN YOUR OWN EYES BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU THIS - - YOUR CHURCHES ARE ABOUT AS CLEAN AS MUD WITH THE SUPERCILLIOUS SPIRITUAL HUBRIS EXHIBITED HERE.

1,486 posted on 01/20/2011 2:24:46 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR

I’m telling you, that’s why they refuse to identify their own denominations. That way, the only identified church is Catholic, and they can hang on to their pride.

Pride makes a fairly ugly garment, standing in front of the Lord God Almighty.


1,487 posted on 01/20/2011 2:27:58 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne

Sad, very sad.

Have a good night!


1,488 posted on 01/20/2011 2:42:14 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Judith Anne; OpusatFR; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
I’m telling you, that’s why they refuse to identify their own denominations. That way, the only identified church is Catholic, and they can hang on to their pride.

Nope. It's got nothing to do with pride. It's got everything to do with privacy and not compromising my screenname, as I've told you before.

Now, based on past experience, I fully expect an *I don't believe you* from you, since it seems to be a fairly predicable response to me about things I state. And you are certainly free to deny the truth if you want.

However, I do want it on record that the real reason I will not reveal my denomination is so that my screenname is not compromised. And considering how much I've been on the receiving end of all this *charitable* Catholicism just online, I prefer to keep it that way.

Besides, denominations don't save. Jesus does. Denominations are irrelevant except for being able to access their statement of faith to see if they hold to Scripture as their only and final authority. They are just places to worship.

Everything I believe can be found in Scripture, so it is likewise not true that no one can know my doctrine or where I'm coming from theologically.

All they have to do is read the Bible.

1,489 posted on 01/20/2011 2:59:45 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: the_conscience

imho

The Bible indicate that at least a major segment or stage will be

WHEN

The Anti-Christ sets up his image in the 3rd Temple’s Holy Of Holies and demands to be worshiped as God.

Jews, ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE will know THEN that they’ve been had and flee as they are slaughtered massively from the Temple outwards.

Scripture indicates they will LOOK UPON HIM WHOM THEY HAVE PIERCED. That timing is not clear but it could easily be at the same time as their fleeing the above.

Certainly God is in charge of such and

IS STILL USING THE JEWS AS OBJECT LESSONS FOR ALL OF THE WORLD AND ALL OF CREATION.


1,490 posted on 01/20/2011 3:05:13 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: OpusatFR

You shouldn’t believe everything you read on the internet.

Especially if it’s not cited.


1,491 posted on 01/20/2011 3:05:18 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: OpusatFR

Evidently some RC’s ignore my vulnerable candid posts as much as they ignore Scripture.


1,492 posted on 01/20/2011 3:06:28 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Judith Anne

Thanks for being

TERMINALLY WRONG AGAIN.


1,493 posted on 01/20/2011 3:07:00 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom

GIVEN the ruthlessness blood lust demonstrated by so many RC’s toward Proddys on FR,

any Proddy would be brain dead to share such private info publicly on FR.


1,494 posted on 01/20/2011 3:08:13 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

“Evidently some RC’s ignore my vulnerable candid posts as much as they ignore Scripture.”

We ignore your interpretion exactly. I have no need to consult a sect that was founded in the 1900s to understand my own reading of Scripture.

The whole perversion of Apocalypse that is posted giving alien/demons some pantheon of importance is a horrendous twisting of the meanings that keep people fixated on this alien/demon sky watch instead of on Christ where it belongs.

~IN CHRIST WHERE IT BELONGS.


1,495 posted on 01/20/2011 3:16:28 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Quix

Agreed


1,496 posted on 01/20/2011 3:17:09 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix

“GIVEN the ruthlessness blood lust demonstrated by so many RC’s toward Proddys on FR,...”

WHAT A HORROR! Claiming the crown of martyrdom on an internet bulletin board service while one of our priests,
Fr. Peter Zhuang Guijun was hauled out a home into the winter weather not allowed to even put shoes on and now resides in the tender mercies of the Chinese Communists.


1,497 posted on 01/20/2011 3:22:15 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Quix
GIVEN the ruthlessness blood lust demonstrated by so many RC’s toward Proddys on FR,

any Proddy would be brain dead to share such private info publicly on FR.

RUTHLESSNESS BLOOD LUST? toward PRODDIES? What a stunning example of hyperbole! I hope all proddies live a long long time, to put off their time of judgement as long as possible.

Any prod who refuses to put their church denomination on a Catholic/Prod thread is a dirty yellow coward. Privacy, baloney!

1,498 posted on 01/20/2011 3:23:12 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne; NYer

Even NYer will tell you she’s Maronite.

Doesn’t differ from Catholic belief.

But apparently, when one narrows down belief into a discrete difference from other discrete differences, you can locate where the chair in their den is.

Might as well let it go. They hide the differences between themselves well. It wouldn’t help their narratives if the curtain came down and exposed that one doesn’t believe in the Trinity or another makes common cause with Oneness Pentecostal who denies the Trinity

JUST, so that they can provide a common front.

Dishonest, but hey, it’s their Particular Judgment, not mine.


1,499 posted on 01/20/2011 3:35:46 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Judith Anne; Quix; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Any prod who refuses to put their church denomination on a Catholic/Prod thread is a dirty yellow coward. Privacy, baloney!

To correct another erroneous portrayal of "prods", I am not a coward either, nor do I have reason to believe that the other non-Catholics are either.

Nor are we fools. We are exercising discernment.

Thank you for reinforcing the wisdom of my decision.

1,500 posted on 01/20/2011 3:40:17 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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