Posted on 01/14/2011 5:57:52 PM PST by topcat54
Evangelical book catalogs promote books such as Planet Earth: The Final Chapter, The Great Escape, and the Left Behind series. Bumper stickers warn us that the vehicle’s occupants may disappear at any moment. It is clear that there is a preoccupation with the idea of a secret rapture. Perhaps this has become more pronounced recently due to the expectation of a new millennium and the fears regarding potential Y2K problems. Perhaps psychologically people are especially receptive to the idea of an imminent, secret rapture at the present time. Additionally, many Christians are not aware that any other position relative to the second coming of Jesus Christ exists. Even in Reformed circles there are numerous people reading these books. Many of these people are unaware that this viewpoint conflicts with Scripture and Reformed Theology.
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We’re not discussing my church. We’re talking about the Catholic church.
It’s corrupt through and through. It didn’t deal with the immorality in its midst and is now reaping in the whirlwind what it sowed in the wind.
The Catholic church, or any church for that matter, doesn’t deal with the immorality within it, it is wrong. Pointing fingers at others does NOT excuse the evil festering within the Catholic church.
That cannot be of God.
Playing the tit-for tat game...sooo childish. But then it's because the catholic church has not acted the issue of that continues to be spread across the world media. God is NOT going to let the church continue with the status quo. He has revealed the sin of the leadership and those who committed these crimes and will continue doing so unless the church keeps shoving it under their doormat. And if they do the catholic church will go the way of Baal in every way.
You've described the Catholic church to a *T*.
It’s amazing the reaction of people when someone expects some accountability out of them.
If they can’t handle it when mere men expect it of them, what are they going to say when they stand before God?
Blame shift?
I don’t think He’s going to buy it.
I am not interested in anything you send so please don’t. I have my own ‘reliable’ resources.
Perhaps you attend one of these abusive/legalistic/authoritative churches. Or perhaps you do not understand human nature and the effect residual, indwelling sin can have on even a regenerate person. Watch out when the reporters show up.
Oh, really? Where has the Catholic Church FAILED to act?
Is God going to let other churches continue with the status quo? Especially the ones who just pay out insurance claims, and pretend to be sinless? Will He never reveal the sin of other church leaders, and allow them to point fingers without taking responsibility for their own sins? No one can say that the "catholic church will go the way of Baal in every way" unless they are God. Are you God? Do you claim to know His mind? Have you read the Holy Scriptures on what God says about judging? Not only in the NT, but the OT as well?
Lots of accusations against Protestants on the child molesting issue, but precious little in the way of evidence to back it up.
OTOH, there’s article after article in papers across the world documenting the abuse in the Catholic church and the cover ups surrounding it.
And plenty have been posted.
Still looking for he Proddy one where the pastors have been reassigned and the leadership has been told to keep it quiet.
. . . “. . . you don’t what it’s filth exposed.”
[WITHOUT THE (plural) qualification]
ATTRIBUTING MOTIVES
AGAIN!?
So, how many minutes or words worth would you wail about such a thing if the shoe were on the other foot?
Ain’t ecclesiastical prissy haughtiness grand! Few do it better than RC’s though Episcopalians in some quarters try hard. But then, they didn’t have the industrial strength make-up some Pentecostals were known for either.
I haven’t read enough to know yet . . . is gross hypocrisy part of Parochial school training or buried in the Catechism somewhere as a RELIGIOUS DUTY to the Vatican Alice In Wonderland School Of Theology And Reality Mangling INSTITUTION?
“So say you. I do not believe that. Anyone can claim anything on the internet.”
Recognize those words?
Backatcha.
I’ve often wondered . . .
There must be an
AUTO-COMPLAIN switch in many RC’s certainly the rabid clique types . . . Perhaps it’s buried near the pineal gland and is turned on by some wave of a magic white hanky when the baby is baptized?
I take it you don’t read the newspapers or watch much TV. It’s all around. We just had a report recently about a church in my hometown (in fact, I had family members who attended there.) Nice conservative, independent, Bible-believing church. All the right buzzwords. Seems the “youth pastor” (Bible college grad, all the right credentials) was diddling some of the youngsters from youth group during off hours. Arrest, newspaper reports, pictures, the whole works.
This is not to condone or mitigate anything going on in the RC denomination. That’s an abomination. But if anyone thinks their church is immune, they have their head stuck firmly in the sand.
OK.
I think my degree of need for it being spelled out is
much greater
than you inclination/willingness to spell it out.
LOL.
Ahhhh well.
Who cares what your church is? And who says we're talking about the Catholic Church? WE are talking about all churches, not just the Catholics.
Non-denominational churches are the worst for child abuse, because they form and dissolve with no formal organization to take responsibility when crimes occur, and they do occur. Criminal pastors flee to other states, take up different work or live off what they stole, leaving behind girlfriends and boy "friends" of all ages.
Accept the truth that ALL churches contain evil. The Evil One sees to it. Quit acting as though your (plural) church is flawless, because it is not, and God will judge the judgers.
TV. That thing I dust once in a while?
No.... Don’t care for the drivel on it these days.
“Seems the “youth pastor” (Bible college grad, all the right credentials) was diddling some of the youngsters from youth group during off hours. Arrest, newspaper reports, pictures, the whole works. “
Note the operative word “arrest” there.
If you re-read my posts, you will note that I don’t deny that it happens in other churches. The difference is in how it’s handled. That church did it right. Arrest, reports, pictures, the works.
Could we now see some of that from the Catholic church, instead of allowing it to fester, as it has for centuries and offering excuses for having not done so?
Ahhh. Sorry. Aye Aye.
I may have similarly crossed that line later. Some of the RC’s double standard stuff seems really tricky to talk about in a kosher way.
Is there a way one could talk about attitudes kosherly?
Proddys get shredded up one side and down the other on less serious stuff, it seems to me.
Regardless, I’d rather not make unnecessary extra work for you.
Thx.
Yes, it is amazing. Evidently, in some people's books, the ONLY sinners are Catholics. What are those people going to say when they stand before God?
Jesus says there is one fold and you claim there are two folds.
Who’s right?
Non-denominational churches are the worst for child abuse, because they form and dissolve with no formal organization to take responsibility when crimes occur, and they do occur.
I am no fan of Non-Denoms but you have made a very serious charge there. Is this libel or can you substantiate these wicked claims? Sometimes I wonder who gratuitously attacks the Church with more zeal, atheists or Roman Catholics.
Well, the number of times you've asked me about it, you sure seem to.
Non-denominational churches are the worst for child abuse, because they form and dissolve with no formal organization to take responsibility when crimes occur, and they do occur. Criminal pastors flee to other states, take up different work or live off what they stole, leaving behind girlfriends and boy "friends" of all ages.
Anyone can say anything on the internet. Please provide more than speculation to support your contention. For all your statements for how pervasive it is, you haven't provided any objective evidence to support that. For that matter you haven't even provided any anecdotal evidence to support your assertions.
To what source do you attribute your knowledge of these situations?
Quit acting as though your (plural) church is flawless, because it is not, and God will judge the judgers.
Better be careful yourself.
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