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1 posted on 01/03/2011 7:38:26 PM PST by Grig
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To: Grig

And we wonder why liberals still defend Obama...

heh... go figure.


2 posted on 01/03/2011 7:49:30 PM PST by Skared2deth
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To: Grig
What is even more intriguing is that all of these people actually collaborated on scientific papers that made about as much sense as this.
3 posted on 01/03/2011 8:04:49 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Grig
There is no spinning this pic, no matter how hard mormon in good standing Harry Reid tells you to try.


FLDS/LDS "prophet" Brigham Young and his wives.

4 posted on 01/03/2011 8:27:26 PM PST by SENTINEL (Mormonism...from Ezra Taft Benson to Reid and Romney in only one generation.)
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To: Grig
Joseph Smith claimed to be greater than Christ as quoted here in this referenced LDS published book.

"Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet...When they can get rid of me, the devil will also go." (History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 408, 409)

- Joseph Smith, FLDS/LDS "prophet, seer, revelator, and founder.

6 posted on 01/03/2011 8:36:00 PM PST by SENTINEL (Mormonism...from Ezra Taft Benson to Reid and Romney in only one generation.)
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To: Grig

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I see the Tanners are quoted...

Who to believe

The mormon FAIR webite or the Tanners...

The mormon agenda driven website paid for by the tithing of the mormon followers of Joey Smith the lying conman...

that doesnt explain the lies told about the LORD Jesus Christ and Christianity...

or the Tanners, Christians who excaped from mormonism and want to rescue others from its chains be exposing the sham that the false prophet Joey Smith invented..

Gollies thats not hard...

The Tanners ...


7 posted on 01/03/2011 8:40:10 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Grig; SENTINEL; Tennessee Nana
History or Propaganda? Joseph Smith as a Case Study

Speaking of propaganda, FAIR has this disclaimer, albeit in tiny print, at the bottom of their home page:

FAIR is not owned, controlled by, or affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. All research and opinions provided on this site are the sole responsibility of FAIR and should not be interpreted as official statements of LDS doctrine, belief, or practice.

9 posted on 01/03/2011 8:49:51 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Grig

Nice post. Probably above the head of many superficial or impatient readers. I enjoyed the B.H.Roberts quote that the critics of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are...

“as one who walks through some splendid orchard and gathers here and there the worm-eaten, frost-bitten, wind-blasted, growth-stunted and rotten fruit, which in spite of the best of care is to be found in every orchard; bringing this to us he says: “This is the fruit of yonder orchard; you see how worthless it is; an orchard growing such fruit is ready for the burning.” Whereas, the fact may be that there are tons and tons of beautiful, luscious fruit, as pleasing to the eye as it would be agreeable to the palate, remaining in the orchard to which he does not call our attention at all. Would not such a representation of the orchard be an untruth, notwithstanding his blighted specimens were gathered from its trees? If he presents to us the blighted specimens of fruit from the orchard, is he not in truth and in honor bound also to call our attention to the rich harvest of splendid fruit that still remains ungathered before he asks us to pass judgment on the orchard?


11 posted on 01/03/2011 11:47:33 PM PST by dixjea
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To: Grig
Extensive use of underlining, all capitals and bold--all for emphasis ... This extensive use of emphasis in the closely spaced text of 587-page Shadow-Reality actually discourages reading each word or even every sentence and paragraph, but instead encourages the reader's eye to skip from emphasized words to emphasized words

This author doesn't know his typography. Over-use of emphasis leads the reader to ignore the emphasis.

16 posted on 01/04/2011 6:10:21 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Grig

The Tanners began the process of pulling back the curtain on Mormonism, the Mystic Maze continued it. The internet is making sure that whereever the cultic missionaries go, they are met with fact, evidence and logic to demonstrate the fallacy of mormonism.

Thank God for the Tanners. Millions are being kept out of the clutches of mormonic slavery.


17 posted on 01/04/2011 7:11:19 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Grig

I'm being serious here now...

America is SO FORTUNATE that Joespeh Smitt died an early death.

I deeply and sincerely believe that we would have had a vlolent religion, as bad as lslam on the American soil, if he had lived longer. Because he died 'early', m-ism is more moderate than it would have been.

Never forget that. . . . . . . . p.s. mis-spellings are intentional.

21 posted on 01/04/2011 7:59:43 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Grig

The most revealing thing about this post is that it’s author does exactly what he condemm’s the Tanners for doing - taking portions out of context.

What is even more revealing is that in attempting to show the Tanner’s citations in a bad light, the expanded passage used does nothing to detract from the essence of the quote the tanners used.

The morpologists at FAIR are masters of deception. Allen Wyatt of FAIR has registered over 300 website URLS hoping to confuse those searching for information on Mormonism to be funneled into FAIR owned sites. He has also registered dozens of miss-leading domains around the Utah Light House Ministery site (the Tanners) - and re-directing them to FAIR in attempts to thwart visitors from finding out information about the church.

Then remember again, FAIR is not authorized to provide official commentary on the lds religion - just their personal opinion.


25 posted on 01/04/2011 9:28:31 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Grig
 
Out of CONTEXT alert!


http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”
 
 
And, continuing thru the years, the high ranking leaders of that Organization have said the same!
 
Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses, 18:172).
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses, 10:127).
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p.196).
 

26 posted on 01/04/2011 12:14:00 PM PST by Elsie
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