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Who Wrote The Gospels? How Do We Know?
Catholic Culture ^ | 12/14/10 | Dr. Jeff Mirus

Posted on 12/15/2010 12:02:02 PM PST by marshmallow

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1 posted on 12/15/2010 12:02:04 PM PST by marshmallow
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This question is the subject of a new book by C. E. Hill, Professor of New Testament at Reformed Theological Seminary in Orlando, Florida

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2 posted on 12/15/2010 12:08:42 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: marshmallow

“Who wrote the gospels?”

God!

Next question


3 posted on 12/15/2010 12:17:49 PM PST by laweeks
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To: marshmallow
Hyam Maccoby, Revolution In Judaea: Jesus and the Jewish Resistance
4 posted on 12/15/2010 12:27:38 PM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Ask the Reverend from Blazing Saddles.


5 posted on 12/15/2010 12:37:46 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: marshmallow

We KNOW who wrote them, but WHO PUT THEM TOGETHER AS OUR BIBLE???


6 posted on 12/15/2010 12:53:10 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

The article makes exactly that point.


7 posted on 12/15/2010 1:28:28 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Ann Archy
According to many books about those involved in creating Shakespeare, this same group of academia did up the Bible for ol'King what’shisname.
8 posted on 12/15/2010 1:56:14 PM PST by de.rm (Bang, bang, . . bang. Shhh=Bush, the elder, E. Howard Hunt, LBJ, Mrs, Edgar Hoover)
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To: marshmallow
it is inconceivable that he would not have noted the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple in AD 70 if those events had taken place before he wrote. Therefore the Gospel must have been written at least as early as the late 60’s.

I think most thoughtful scholars would avoid words like "inconceivable" and "must have" on a topic such as this.

9 posted on 12/15/2010 2:02:17 PM PST by trad_anglican
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To: marshmallow

While written by mortal men, the inspiration was the same source for those honorable men who penned our US Constitution - God inspired means precisely that. It doesn’t mean parsing the mortal qualifications (or lack thereof), foibles, pecularities, frailties, etc. of the writers....in my mind, these futile academic exercises for academia’s sake clouds the message in favor of auditing the messenger.....


10 posted on 12/15/2010 2:07:54 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: marshmallow
More about these apostles and writers:

ST. MATTHEW, APOSTLE and EVANGELIST
St. Matthew, Apostle and Evangelist (Dom Guéranger)
Call No Man Father: Understanding Matthew 23:9
On St. Matthew, A Model of Acceptance of God's Mercy
Remnants of the monastery in which the relics of St. Matthews may reside discovered in Kirghizia
Matthew 16:13-19 exegesis
Acts And Martyrdom Of St. Matthew The Apostle

ST MARK, EVANGELIST, PATRON SAINT OF VENICE, Feast: April 25
HOMILIES PREACHED BY FATHER ALTIER ON THE FEAST OF SAINT MARK THE EVANGELIST, APRIL 25
Orthodox Feast of St. Mark the Apostle & Evangelist, May 3
Saint Mark the Evangelist

Saint Luke, physician who chronicled Christ's life, to be celebrated October 18
Christmas - Gospel According to Saint Luke
Life of St. Luke the Evangelist
American's donation lets pope peruse oldest copy of St. Luke's Gospel
Orthodox Feast of St. Luke the Evangelist
The Life Of The Holy Apostle And Evangelist Luke
It Could Be St. Luke's Body, After All.
Happy St. Luke's!
Body of St Luke Gains Credibility

The Twelve Apostles of the Catholic Church: St. John [Catholic Caucus]
Feast of St. John (Apostle and Evangelist)


11 posted on 12/15/2010 3:38:56 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
More about St. John:

The Twelve Apostles of the Catholic Church: St. John [Catholic Caucus]
Feast of St. John (Apostle and Evangelist)
The Falling Asleep of St. John the Evangelist and Theologian September 26
Where the Beloved Disciple Finally Rested
Orthodox Feast of The Falling Asleep of St. John the Evangelist and Theologian, September 26
St. John, Apostle and Evangelist
Mary's House — Walking in the Footsteps of St. John

12 posted on 12/15/2010 3:47:53 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow
In 1970 Elaine Pagels in her work, the Gnostic Gospels, asserted that the canonical gospels were advanced at the expense of the “Gnostic Gospels” to further the selfish aims of Catholicism. However since Pagels has herself recently been accused of academic fraud, the voices supporting her position have fallen silent.

Even before Pagels was alleged to have committed academic malfeasance, Philip Jenkins, a professor from Penn St, in his work “Hidden Gospels” decimates Pagels poor scholarship and defends the earlier dating and legitimate acceptance of the canonical gospels. Jenkins then dates the Gnostic gospels to the 2nd and 3rd century and debunks much of the myth introduced by Pagels and her ilk. He explains in a logical fashion why the academics of the last forty ears felt a need to debunk orthodox christianity of the 1st century.

13 posted on 12/15/2010 6:07:19 PM PST by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: marshmallow; Not gonna take it anymore; Celtic Cross; shurwouldluv_a_smallergov; Judith Anne; ...
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14 posted on 12/15/2010 6:21:05 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: Alex Murphy
a new book by C. E. Hill, Professor of New Testament at Reformed Theological Seminary in Orlando, Florida

A professor at my alma mater seminary, but I was at the Charlotte, NC, campus.

Conservative, orthodox Christians of all stripes can (and really should) be friends.

15 posted on 12/15/2010 7:06:51 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: Gaffer

I really don’t think there are a lot of serious conservative bible scholars who will claim the US Constitution and Declaration were “inspired” in the same way the holy Scriptures were inspired, that is directly by the Holy Spirit.

The doctrine of biblical inspiration—that is, literally “God breathed” is quite different than the idea of high or inspired writing—of other, lesser works. Shakespeare, or Milton, or Plato are surely inspired, but not, without error like the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

No serious Christian scholar that I know of will claim that the Declaration or Constitution are inspired of the Holy Spirit and inerrant. Washington, Adams, Hamilton, Jefferson or Madison wouldn’t either—which is why the Amendment process is built in.


16 posted on 12/15/2010 7:15:53 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: marshmallow

I began serious reading and study of the Bible (KJV) back in early 63, 1963, that is.

In general I begin to see throughout the New Testament: “God is not a respecter of persons.” and “With men it is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

Wow! This renewed and strengthened my faith! When I got home from the office, I could not wait to get home and read more Scriptures.
I learned very quickly: “Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.” (Hebrews 11:1)

Then I memorized: “But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is the rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.” (Hebrews 11:6)

Later I learned: “Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.” (Romans 5:1) And in Romans 6:23; “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” And one more in Romans 10:17: “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”

Back in those years I rejoiced that “For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved.”(John 3:17)

Even learning that Matthew presents the Lord Jesus as “King”
Mark presents Jesus as “Servant” Luke present Jesus as “Man.” and last the Gospel of John presents Jesus as “God.”
If I’m deceived in knowing I have; by God’s grace have eternal life, joy and peace, I’ll chose that deception!

But I know whom I have believed,and am fully persuaded that God has saved me through His Son Jesus Christ, and given me everlasting life.”


17 posted on 12/15/2010 7:34:01 PM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: AnalogReigns
It makes no difference to me whether these 'scholars' are serious, or 'conservative'. What exactly is a 'serious Christian Scholar'? Does that happen to be anyone foolish enough to claim to know the will and purpose of God? To me, the US Constitution is God-inspired, regardless of bystanders' opinions. The mere fact that it also incorporated a provision for 'change' is a reflection that the execution of its intent involves human free will and allows for redress and change - whether you believe what I believe makes no matter. I only question the arrogance of the rejoinder.
18 posted on 12/16/2010 2:47:51 PM PST by Gaffer
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"What exactly is a 'serious Christian Scholar'?"

I'm very series, a Christian and I study.

"Does that happen to be anyone foolish enough to claim to know the will and purpose of God?"

How does one live righteously without doing exactly that?

"To me, the US Constitution is God-inspired, regardless of bystanders' opinions."

Didn't you just do what you called 'foolish' above?

19 posted on 12/16/2010 2:55:35 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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[Note to self: Stay off the Religion Forum......not worth arguing with closeminded people]


20 posted on 12/16/2010 2:59:32 PM PST by Gaffer
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