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To: Cronos; RobbyS; metmom
Sigh, RobbyS pointed out that just restricting the virginity to before the birth makes similarities to the births of Heracles et. al. I don't agree with that analogy (sorry Robby, your point seems wrong to me) and also with your statement which accuses (strong word, but true) Robby of paganism.

Let me take Robby's analogy a bit further.

I love to cook on an outdoor grill.

I put beef on the grill. I also put pork and poultry on the grill. Since all three meats are on the same grill, they must come from the same animal.

This analogy makes about as much sense as Robby's Greek mythology analogy.

Jesus was born of a virgin in fulfilment of the scriptures. Jesus is still alive in a physical body, and is at the right hand of God.

If Heracles actually existed, he was a man without any divinity. Incidently, according to the Greek myths, Zeus had physical intercourse with Heracles' mother. Therefore, Heracles mother, according to the myths, was NOT a virgin.

God did not have physical intercourse with Mary. Would anybody disagree with my last statement?

980 posted on 12/07/2010 8:53:00 AM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear

***God did not have physical intercourse with Mary. Would anybody disagree with my last statement?***

Mormons?


984 posted on 12/07/2010 9:00:32 AM PST by Gamecock (New TSA Slogans: 1. If We DonÂ’t Get Off, You DonÂ’t Get On 2. We Love Your Fly and It Shows)
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To: Grizzled Bear

***God did not have physical intercourse with Mary. Would anybody disagree with my last statement?***

Mormons?


985 posted on 12/07/2010 9:00:42 AM PST by Gamecock (New TSA Slogans: 1. If We DonÂ’t Get Off, You DonÂ’t Get On 2. We Love Your Fly and It Shows)
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To: Grizzled Bear

You may not like the analogy, the fact is that it is one that has been put forward since the 18th Century to discredit the Virgin Birth. Does it make sense to treat the “Mother of my Lord” as if she were on the same footing as the mothers of Issac, of Samuel and of Elizabeth? Yes, if Jesus is no more than the greatest of the Prophets, but the Virgin Birth is not ‘merely” a miracle but an action on the same scale as the Creation itself. It means that Jesus is not “just” divine, but THE GOD” — the Creator. I think you are simply glossing over the significance of the Virgin Birth and by diminishing the role of Mary you diminish Our Lord, or advertise your belief in a minimal christology.


1,186 posted on 12/07/2010 2:06:13 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Grizzled Bear; RobbyS

Last statement of course correct. Original analogy was incorrect.


1,347 posted on 12/08/2010 2:06:24 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (And the word was made flesh, and dwelt amonst us))
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