Mormons and Christianity: What has the Mormon Church historically taught about Christianity?

Rethinking Mormonism ^

[freedumb2003]

Another Xenu thread!

I love these!!

[anniegetyourgun]

Continuing to pray Mormons out of their cult.

[svcw]

"This is not just another Church. This is not just one of a family of Christian churches. This is the Church and kingdom of God, the only true Church upon the face of the earth..."

- Prophet Ezra Taft Benson, Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p.164-165

Yet, lds weep and wail to be called Christians.

psst D, you know you aren't supposed to expose lds beliefs.........especially using direct quotes and documentation.

[HospiceNurse]

Jesus faced a mob that was eager to execute a woman caught in adultery. He put a stop to it with a simple challenge: anyone who has no sin in their life should step forward and throw the first stone. That sentence is often cited as a reminder to avoid judging others when there are faults in your own life that need to be addressed.

[Goreknowshowtocheat]

What joy! Another anti-mormon thread, there is such a shortage of these on FR with the tens of thousands wanting more.

[Paragon Defender]

Seekers of truth,

If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There's an anti-Mormon group of people here that spends a great deal of their time attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They post regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.

They have a misguided obsession. You can witness many different tactics employed that you might find quite interesting. The straw man argument is a big favorite and is frequently preceded by cherry-picking quotes or other material. After the "quotation" the attacker will misrepresent what has been said or what was meant and then attack their own interpretation.Later they will have the audacity to claim they were "only" quoting our own material.  

They will of course insist ad nauseum that they are merely using our sources and are therefore innocent of any deceptive practice. LDS persons have no issue whatsoever having our scriptures or leaders quoted as long as it is presented fairly and accurately. This is rarely (if ever) done.

Another favorite is posting scripture or statements which on their own really present no dilemma. They make something out of nothing while never bringing up a single objection that hasn't been addressed a hundred times before.

You might note a couple of other tactics used to try to antagonize is the use of disrespectful or insulting terms or language and/or pictures. That's a Christlike thing to do right? Yeah I don't think so either. It does speak volumes about them though.

Sometimes they cruise the headlines of the day seeking any story that might be twisted into making the Church look bad. Anything will do, just watch the progression of posts following it and see what I mean.

After reading their posts, I invite you to seek the truth about whatever "issue" they seem to be "revealing" or "exposing". I promise that if you do so with honest intent, the "ahah" moments you will have will be many and frequent. You will start to recognize the tactics employed to cleverly twist and attack and will likely chuckle the more you see. In actuality, there's nothing new here. It's all been addressed many times before.

The latest twist in the anti-Mormon propaganda machine is to actually go to the links provided, but then they cherry pick what they want, then quote and straw man attack that. Clever. It almost appears that they are helping you, the seeker of truth out by doing some footwork for you. Not so much. Don't be insulted, look for yourself. It's not the haystack they want you to think.

Here's a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the "issues" brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here's more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

Now you will likely notice the "you never address our points" posts pop up as usual. All after providing the answers just as you have here.

Sometimes it is claimed that these sites present a needle in a haystack. Far from it. But if you give up before you try you won't know will you?

Will you wear blinders too? Seek truth. Find out for yourself. Want to chat with someone on any topic? A few of these sites provide just that. So do your homework sincere seeker of truth. Listen and read from both "sides". Make up your own mind.

I witness to you of these truths and wish you the best, in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

 

[svcw]

No actually we can and are supposed to judge those who say they are Christians against the Word of God. Everything is to be judged against God's Word. Are we permitted to judge one’s heart - no, that is God's preview.

[svcw]

So, PD what in the post is incorrect. Just one example, just one.

psst all the quotes are documented and from official lds sources (unlike most of your links).

[svcw]

Show me from the post one anti-mormon statement.

[conservativegramma]

Please don’t confuse personal sin with doctrine. Or as in the case of the lds - false doctrine.

Jesus commanded truth, not falsehood, (John 17:17) and he aggressively went after those who taught lies/false doctrine (Matt. 15:9; Mark 7:7; Matt. 23-24). Paul said that any other or false gospel is ‘anathema’ (Galatians 1:9). Paul continually went after those who taught falsely: Eph. 4:14; 1 Tim. 1:3-4; I Tim. 4:1-6; 2 Tim. 4:3; Titus 1:9; Titus 2:1, 7.

Over and over in the New Testament (and the old for that matter) false religious systems are to be refuted. Start with the Book of Jude then work your way into III John and then end up with Christ swinging his whip in the Temple - - literally. You’re playing with fire when you twist a section of Scripture into an excuse to never confront error.

[conservativegramma]

In your zeal to make yourself appear superior by whacking the ‘anti-mormons’so that you can continue to abuse FR as your own personal proselytizing site - please feel free to provide proof that all the above source citations from your own church/leaders are false.

We await with baited breath..........

[FatherofFive]

There's an anti-Mormon group of people here that spends a great deal of their time attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

The basic premise of Mormonism cannot be true.

Mormon’s believe that the Church Christ founded somehow needed a restoration. Unfortunately, this cannot be true, unless Christ is a liar. The LDS claims that God chose Joseph Smith to reestablish the Church of Jesus Christ after it had disappeared some 1,700 years earlier following the death of the first apostles.

But let's look at Scripture.

“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mat 6:18

Here Christ says his Church will not be destroyed.

“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” John 16:12-13

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

Here Christ says, and Paul reaffirms, that the Church will always teach the TRUTH.

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." Mat 28:18-20

Again, here Jesus assures us that He is always with us, to the very end.

So Christ says His Church will not be destroyed or fall away from him, that the Holy Spirit will guide the Church to always teach the Truth, and He will always be with us.

The only reason for a ‘restoration’ is that Christ lied.

[Godzilla]

Seekers of truth,

[Godzilla]

We await with baited breath..........

Hi CG, long time no read. Yep a lot of us waiting for a real answer. Lots of crickets though. . . . .

[laweeks]

Properly and convincingly explain away these five mormonisms and maybe I’ll listen:

1. The planet Kolab
2. The clearly written statement that Joseph Smith, Jr. will sit next to Jesus Christ in the next world to judge whether we will go into heaven or not
3. There are hundreds of thousands of gods
4. The historical anacronisms of chariots, wheels, draft animals, horses, and various old world metals that the book of mormon claim to have been found in the new world.
5. Jesus is Lucifer’s brother

O.K. start . . . .

[wgflyer]

As a nonbeliever in any religion, these threads kind of baffle me. The people I know who comfortable with their Christianity are some of the finest people I've ever met. Raised around a heap of Mormons, and having rejected it, I still must admit that good Mormons are among the finest people I have ever met. As an atheist, I must admit that most of the worst people I've met have been atheists, though that end of the spectrum of character and behavior which is bad spans pretty much every discipline, or non discipline. Our constitution was written by people profoundly moral, based in their belief in God, and I benefit greatly from their morality and sacrifice. Even as an atheist, I can very much appreciate and support any belief that improves personal character and behavior and thus raises our standard of living or quality of life. I see this trait in both Mormons and Christians. Tis greatly sad to me to see them at each others’ throats, when so much truly evil liberalism gathers at our doorstep.

[Goreknowshowtocheat]

Oh...then the posting was a mistake. I did not know you could make such a long post by accident.

[panaxanax]

“...so that you can continue to abuse FR as your own personal proselytizing site...”

You must be kidding, right?

Nobody abuses this great website more than the gang of anti-Mormon fanatics who disregard EVERY American’s right to “Freedom of Religion”.

Let them believe and practice as they wish. They’re not hurting you. There are far greater issues facing our country at this time that should command your attention.

[hosepipe]

Christianity has not been to easy on Christianity either..
The word heretic is used quite easily on some places..
A little less common but still potent in other places..

The word cult is also used commonly to describe problems in dogma..
The lack of the right ceremonies are viewed harshly in other places..