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To: Stourme

The words of Jesus Himself.

John 6: 28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

Works will only result in condemnation. They can’t save you. If you sin only once, you are guilty of the whole Law. You can live a perfect live from now on and it’s not going to do any good because of that once.

THAT’S why works don’t save, because you have to keep the WHOLE Law. Only Jesus did that.

Galatians 2:20I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.


216 posted on 11/07/2010 3:24:49 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
[metmom]
The words of Jesus Himself.
John 6: 28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
Works will only result in condemnation. They can’t save you. If you sin only once, you are guilty of the whole Law. You can live a perfect live from now on and it’s not going to do any good because of that once.
THAT’S why works don’t save, because you have to keep the WHOLE Law. Only Jesus did that.


Who ever taught you this has deceived you. If you lay out the rest of the New Testament, including everything Jesus taught it doesn't make sense. And it contridicts Jesus. Therefore it can't be right.

I'm not sure what Bible you're using but that's not John 6:28.

John 6:28-29
28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Jesus is teaching a simple principle. He's introducing Himself as the Son of God. He's teaching them the first principle of the gospel, faith on Jesus Christ.


[metmom] Works will only result in condemnation.

This is very wrong. Jesus taught:
Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Jesus acknowledged the good works of others:
Matthew 26:10 When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman?  for she hath wrought a good work upon me.

Jesus used His own works to testify of Himself:
John 10:37 - 38
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

The Apostles acknowledged the good works of others:
Acts 9:36 Now there was at Joppa a certain disciple named Tabitha, which by interpretation is called Dorcas:
this woman was full of good works
and almsdeeds which she did.

Paul taught:
2 Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

James taught:
James 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

Bad works are all about attitude:
Matthew 23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men:

[metmom]They can’t save you.
No one is saying they do. Jesus Christ saves us. Jesus has requirements that must be met or He will not save us. The vast number of people who believe Jesus is the Son of God will still fail at the judgment and will not be allowed into heaven.

[metmom] If you sin only once, you are guilty of the whole Law. You can live a perfect live from now on and it’s not going to do any good because of that once.
THAT’S why works don’t save, because you have to keep the WHOLE Law. Only Jesus did that.


Yes, you are guilty. But the promise of salvation is that Jesus would pay the price for sin and by doing so satisfy the law. Jesus then has requirements of us. It's failing these requiements which will keep the so called "believers" out of heaven.

232 posted on 11/07/2010 4:43:49 PM PST by Stourme ((www.thebayougardener.com - my favorite website))
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To: metmom
You beat me to it; so I'll leave THIS for us all:

Titus 3:3-8

 At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. 

 But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared,  he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy.

He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,  whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior,  so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.

This is a trustworthy saying. And I want you to stress these things, so that those who have trusted in God may be careful to devote themselves to doing what is good. These things are excellent and profitable for everyone.


267 posted on 11/07/2010 6:30:25 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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