Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
In Christ Alone lyrics
Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;
In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm
What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand
In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save
?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live
There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again
And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ
[26] And if one member suffer any thing, all the members suffer with it; or if one member glory, all the members rejoice with it.
[27] Now you are the body of Christ, and members of member.
[28] And God indeed hath set some in the church; first apostles, secondly prophets, thirdly doctors/teachers; after that miracles; then the graces of healing, helps, governments, kinds of tongues, interpretations of speeches.
[29] Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers/doctors?
[30] Are all workers of miracles? Have all the grace of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?
Since they are identical, I don't see the problem.
Wow. You consider the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy Christians?
What about some hit man for the Mafia? What about those priests who molest children?
Show me where, in the Bible, believers are called *Catholics*. Followers of Christ are called Christian by Scripture
Acts 11:26
...and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church and taught a great many people. And in Antioch the disciples were first called Christians.
You can claim all you want that Catholics are by default Christians, but considering what some Catholics live like, I'd hardly call them *followers of Christ* or *little Christs*.
See, that's the problem with Catholicism. It calls people Christians based on baptism, not based on genuine rebirth demonstrated by lifestyle.
By conflating the two, you end up being put in a position where people who engage in all kinds of evil are labeled *Christian* by the Catholic church based on nothing more than ceremony. And this from the church which demands that people add works to their faith to be saved?
People who don't walk the talk are NOT Christians, no matter how observant a Catholic they are.
Granted there are likely to be a few real Christians in the Catholic church, but based on my experience with Catholics on the every day lay person level, they're few and far between.
And I've never had the privilege, thank God, of dealing with the Catholics on the clergy level, which is even worse.
Go ahead. Call pro-aborts and child molesters *Christian*. It lends so much to your credibility.
The fact that you equate the the term *Catholic* and the term *Christian* and don't see a problem with that, by your own admission, demonstrates a degree of spiritual blindness that is staggering.
What about this?
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The sin nature still comes through the man.
Show us where in Scripture it states that the sin nature comes through the woman.
I asked you specifically about Jewishness.
"I want to know why it was necc. to make the Mary figure glow-in-the-dark, and to have her suspended in the Lourdes water. Does she suddenly start glowing, a.k.a. functions like a dosimiter (radiation monitoring device) if the vial springs a leak?"
-- Alex Murphy, February 6, 2007
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Why? Do you, as a resident (citizen?) of Poland, have a problem with Jewishness?
Poles Confront the Dark Side [lifting the silence around anti-semitism in Poland]
I was discussing the sin nature coming through the man. That transcends nationality.
Try to stay on topic.
Where’s the Scripture verse that says the sin nature comes through the woman?
So, according to you, someone is a Christian based on lip service to a creed?
Interesting.
Was Jesus wrong then when He said it was through Him?
What about Pelosi, Kennedy, Mafia hit men, and the molesting priests? If they agree with the creed, they’re Christians? Would Jesus act like any of them?
gag.
I was just waiting for someone to finally say this!
Just giving you the real Scriptures, not recent and novel interpretations of them.
Like I've said before, go right ahead and trust in your good deeds to usher you into Heaven.
I've corrected you on this many times. I see that I have to yet again. I never said that my good deeds could usher me to Heaven.
So my works will be held up to God's judgment and the penalty for my sins has already been paid in full by the blood of Christ and I will not be judged guilty of them. It will be an acquittal by God's grace through faith. And I know that not all the things that I have done for Christ are all gold, silver and precious stones, but I will watch those that aren't burn, trusting in the righteous judge and, in the end, all the rewards I may be given I will lay at the feet of Jesus who alone is worthy to receive all glory, honor and praise for all eternity!
Even Paul does not agree with that, as I have showed you. Certainly that is not the Gospel.
The promise was made by God that the Messiah would be of the line of David. There is no legality about it. He kept His word to us. Fulfillment of the prophecy, not legality.
I very seldom make reference to "Catholic Answers" but I thought you might be interested the following:
"This sin of Adams was not your ordinary sin. This was a sin that affected all mankind forever. This sin changed the course of human history. It did not just affect Adam personally; it also affected his human naturewhich means it affected our nature, since we inherited it from him. Adam and Eve were created with immortal bodies. They knew no suffering, they knew no disease, they knew no death. Before the fall, their bodies would not have been subject to cancer or to Alzheimers disease or heart attacks or muscular dystrophy or sickle cell anemia or any one of a host of other diseases. But ours are."
Catholic Answers - Sin Through Adam (He was the man wasn't he?)
Youve been given Scripture...
Which does not say what you tell me it says.
...and your own catechism.
Why is an anti Catholic using the Catechism to prove their own faith and not relying on Scripture.
Now show us where Scripture, your catechism or anyone but you says mans sin nature comes from the mother.
It doesn't say that it comes specifically from either. You made the claim, you prove it.
Youre quick with the questions, Mark, but so far, youre void of answers. If youre so certain were wrong, you must have some evidence to back-up your claims. Where is it?
I am not the one claiming anything - you are. You are a sola believer - well, prove it with sola.
The point was made about the legality of Jesus. It is not and never was a point about legality; it was about God's fulfillment of God's promise to us.
The promise to David was that the throne was to be given to one of David's descendants.
Correct; no legalities involved.
You guys are sola; well prove your claim with sola. I didn't make a claim; you guys did. Well, prove it with sola.
They reject our Scriptural support and offer nothing in return.
Scriptural support? Random verses do not prove anything except grasping at straws in order to try to save face after making silly statements.
Its really pathetic the unscriptural nonsense invoked to support their worship of Mary.
You'll have to elaborate; I don't and Catholic that I know of worships Mary. But I did think it funny listening to the hens giggle over not passing any sin on to their children - just their men would. Does that mean that the hens now consider themselves sinless?
There is no mention of 'sin nautre' in your excerpt. And sentence 294 addresses what the Faith believes.
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