In Christ Alone (Happy reformation day)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExnTlIM5QgE ^ | Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

[RnMomof7]

In Christ Alone lyrics

Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm

What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand

In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save

?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live

There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again

And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ

[metmom]

FOTFLOL!!!!

[Natural Law]

"Feeling stuffed?"

Actually fed up is a better description.

[bkaycee]

Mary remained a virgin in order to provide an incontrovertible evidence of the miraculous nature of the birth of Christ, and, quite simply, because her intimacy with God made sex superfluous.

Is a partnership with intent to never consummate the union a legal marriage?

Would a Rabbi perform this ceremony knowing the details?

Would this not be mocking God and marriage He created?

Do priests marry many people who intend to be celibate?

[metmom]

Mary remained a virgin in order to provide an incontrovertible evidence of the miraculous nature of the birth of Christ, and, quite simply, because her intimacy with God made sex superfluous.

How does one know this as well? Did she say that?

God created Adam and Eve with the capability of procreating. He obviously intended them to do so. They were sinless and walked with God in the cool of the day and yet there was obviously the plan that they would have sex and children.

[metmom]

Actually fed up is a better description.

Yup, sounds like stuffed to me when you reach your capacity.

You might as well give up. You're not going to win this one.

[RnMomof7]

Contrary to Reformist propaganda there was no outright selling of indulgences.

The money raised built the Vatican

The Council of Trent instituted severe reforms in the practice of granting indulgences, and, because of prior abuses, "in 1567 Pope Pius V canceled all grants of indulgences involving any fees or other financial transactions" (Catholic Encyclopedia).

Seems the second paragraph negates the assertion of the first

[Alex Murphy]

How does one know this as well? Did she say that?

"Not tonight, dear - I have a great schema."

[RnMomof7]

Mary remained a virgin in order to provide an incontrovertible evidence of the miraculous nature of the birth of Christ, and, quite simply, because her intimacy with God made sex superfluous. She did not abstain from sex on the false notion that it would have been a sin for her.

Source ????

[RnMomof7]

How do you know with certainty what the are the traditions of men and what are the traditions of God?

[RnMomof7]

THEY'RE the ones equating her virginity with sinlessness.

Exactly ....

[RnMomof7]

.now you say that Catholics are Pauline Christians?...?...Please, show me something to back that up...I feel some real IRONY forming here..

"No replies."..((crickets))

[RnMomof7]

Faith Alone is false. The scripture teaches the exact opposite

Scripture please

The Protestants, however, teach heresy. Faith Alone is heresy, and it is at the heart of Protestantism.

Catholics believe in faith in Rome alone saves them ...I guess it is just where one puts their faith ..As for me and mine..it is Jesus

[smvoice]

it’s a good thing I didn’t stay up last night...waiting for that backup..;)

[smvoice]

Catholics believe in faith in Rome alone saves them ...I guess it is just where one puts their faith ..As for me and mine..it is Jesus

I've been wondering about this lately..say (worst case scenario, I know) that the Pope came out next Sunday and spoke ex-cathedra: "God has shown me that we must leave this earthly life now. It is time to drink the bitter koolaid." ANd then he turns and walks back into the Vatican.

What would RCCs do? Just how much faith do they have in their pope, infallibility, traditions, doctrines, etc., really? Would they do as he said or would they walk/run away? Just HOW MUCH FAITH DO they have in Rome.

[Natural Law]

"You're not going to win this one."

Its not about winning or losing. Its about the truth and the truth will always ultimately win.

[1010RD]

A small drop of light on the Religion Forum. Like a raindrop in a desert.

[OLD REGGIE]

That is not a proof of the existence of the mythical biological brothers even on its face. It is a rhetorical question, which only proves that Jesus had relatives close to him in age that might appear to an outsider as brothers.

Let's stick to your original claim which I refuted with Scripture.

She did not have any other children. "Brothers" of Christ are indeed mentioned, but, curious thing, every time a "brother" of Jesus is mentioned by name, his mother also is mentioned and she is not Mary.

MATTHEW - NAB
13:55 Is he not the carpenter's son? Is not his mother named Mary and his brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?

Brothers of Christ are listed and His mother is Mary

One thing at a time please.

1. Defend your claim.
2. Then divert to the standard Apologetics merry-go-round.

[OLD REGGIE]

it certainly is good enough perfect the man of God [sic]

This old guy could blame the keyboard but I must admit I fat fingered past the "to". :-)

The verse says that the study of the scripture produces a perfect clergyman. But it does not say that the study of the scripture alone does that. In fact, the previous verse, verse 14 say that Timothy has to start with the knowledge he learned from St. Paul orally. "Profitable" or "useful" means that it is added on to something else, namely, the Holy Tradition of the Church.

This is silly. Are you suggesting the entire series of letters from Paul to Timothy are restricted to Timothy alone? That the "man of God" can be limited to Timothy (or the clergy) alone?

Please note the "tradition" of which Paul speaks is past or present tense. The "tradition" taught by the Apostles was never hinted at as a constantly developing thing.

[OLD REGGIE]

The Holy Scripture is a written expression of the Holy Tradition that preceded it and is a larger body of knowledge, as the scripture itself teaches:

there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written. (John 21)

Yes, and many of the things which Jesus did which are none of our business. What is important is Scripture teaches us all we need.

Where do you find a Scriptural suggestion that we "add" to Scripture as we see fit?

[OLD REGGIE]

Its not about winning or losing. Its about the truth and the truth will always ultimately win.

The good news is it's not too late to begin. Keep trying.