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In Christ Alone (Happy reformation day)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExnTlIM5QgE ^ | Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7

In Christ Alone lyrics

Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm

What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand

In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save

?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live

There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again

And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ


TOPICS: Prayer; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: reformation; savedbygrace
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To: HarleyD
One has to wonder how the leaders of the Church would be so astute about such matters.

I can only assume that Church Tradition claims that the Gospel of Luke was written by an OB-GYN.

1,481 posted on 11/11/2010 5:48:50 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: HarleyD

It appears that RC fingers have . . . had a very long history of . . .

frightful & absurd fondling . . .


1,482 posted on 11/11/2010 5:51:20 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom; bkaycee

Sex in the context of a valid marriage is not at all dirty, it glorified God.

Mary remained a virgin in order to provide an incontrovertible evidence of the miraculous nature of the birth of Christ, and, quite simply, because her intimacy with God made sex superfluous. She did not abstain from sex on the false notion that it would have been a sin for her.


1,483 posted on 11/11/2010 5:51:38 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
UNBIBLICAL
absurdities gone to seed
yet again!
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1,484 posted on 11/11/2010 5:54:14 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: annalex
Mary remained a virgin in order to provide an incontrovertible evidence of the miraculous nature of the birth of Christ, and, quite simply, because her intimacy with God made sex superfluous. She did not abstain from sex on the false notion that it would have been a sin for her.

Book, chapter, and verse please.

Even if the scenario you posit was true and it may have been superfluous for her, what about Joseph? Her having sex wasn't all about her and her needs.

She would also be disobeying God's command to be fruitful and multiply.

1,485 posted on 11/11/2010 5:58:08 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: The Theophilus; metmom; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg
. In the passage you cited the word παράδοσίς means "precepts", specifically the Jewish traditionary law

You are kidding?

Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle (2 Tess 2:14)
St. Paul taught the Thessalonians Jewish law?

"παράδοσίς" simply meand knowledge or practice handed down. whether it is good or bad depends on the knowledge and practce in question. When the Apostles hand something down, it is good. It makes no difference whether they write a letter or teach face to face; if anything, St Paul preferred appearing in person. When Luther and the rest of the Protestant charlatans hand down their nonsense it is bad, and the Bible wanrs agaisnt such "traditions of men". It is not complicated.

1,486 posted on 11/11/2010 5:58:56 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
Mary remained a virgin in order to provide an incontrovertible evidence of the miraculous nature of the birth of Christ, and, quite simply, because her intimacy with God made sex superfluous. She did not abstain from sex on the false notion that it would have been a sin for her.

What's Joseph in all this? Chopped liver?

1,487 posted on 11/11/2010 5:59:03 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; The Theophilus; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee

Everything S,.t Paul write is inspired scripture and supports the Catholic doctrines. Whoever disparaged St. Paul doesn’t understand Catholicism. We are Pauline Christians.


1,488 posted on 11/11/2010 6:00:52 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
She did not abstain from sex on the false notion that it would have been a sin for her.

I never thought that. You need to tell your Catholic compatriots that. That's THEIR reasoning.

Whenever her the reason for claiming her to be perpetually virgin comes up, the knee jerk response has to do with her (alleged) immaculate conception and being sinless her entire life.

THEY'RE the ones equating her virginity with sinlessness.

1,489 posted on 11/11/2010 6:01:47 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: bkaycee

Pauls does not even say that denying marriage or abstaining from meat is bad in itself. If he did, he would be contradicting himself. That passage makes a prediction about the Gnostics and the prediction came through.


1,490 posted on 11/11/2010 6:03:17 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; The Theophilus; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; ...
Everything S,.t Paul write is inspired scripture and supports the Catholic doctrines. Whoever disparaged St. Paul doesn’t understand Catholicism. We are Pauline Christians.

Alrighty then......

1,491 posted on 11/11/2010 6:04:12 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: annalex; metmom
We are Pauline Christians.

...say what...? annalex, not since your post 5 minutes ago regarding Mary's perpetual virginity have I been so surprised..now you say that Catholics are Pauline Christians?...?...Please, show me something to back that up...I feel some real IRONY forming here..

1,492 posted on 11/11/2010 6:07:20 PM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: bkaycee
even Arminians and the Reformed believe that Salvation is by Grace alone thru Faith alone in Christ Alone.

Faith Alone is false. The scripture teaches the exact opposite. But that is a weak common denominator for Protestantism because, for example, the disagreements of the TULIP are substantial and so the Protestants as a whole cannot be all lead by the Holy Ghost. I don't think any of them are.

The Orthodox and the Protestants are all Christians, but that is where the commonality ends. Apart from the matter of Church governance, the Orthodox hold theological positions that are Catholic. The Protestants, however, teach heresy. Faith Alone is heresy, and it is at the heart of Protestantism.

For the Orthodox to come to the Church all they need is to ask. The Protestants need to recant of Protestantism before they can become Catholic.

1,493 posted on 11/11/2010 6:10:32 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: OLD REGGIE; presently no screen name

That is not a proof of the existence of the mythical biological brothers even on its face. It is a rhetorical question, which only proves that Jesus had relatives close to him in age that might appear to an outsider as brothers.


1,494 posted on 11/11/2010 6:13:39 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: OLD REGGIE; presently no screen name; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; Belteshazzar
it certainly is good enough perfect the man of God [sic]

The verse says that the study of the scripture produces a perfect clergyman. But it does not say that the study of the scripture alone does that. In fact, the previous verse, verse 14 say that Timothy has to start with the knowledge he learned from St. Paul orally. "Profitable" or "useful" means that it is added on to something else, namely, the Holy Tradition of the Church.

1,495 posted on 11/11/2010 6:18:16 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Alex Murphy

Good grief. lol were you just waiting for someone to ask? :) One heck of a list!

For all their caterwauling about being the one true church, they still miss the entire point of JESUS.

As evidenced on these threads.


1,496 posted on 11/11/2010 6:18:57 PM PST by bonfire (ou)
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To: annalex; bkaycee
Galatians 3:1-14 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?

Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith—just as Abraham "believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness"?

Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "In you shall all the nations be blessed." So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, "Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them." Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for "The righteous shall live by faith." But the law is not of faith, rather "The one who does them shall live by them." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree"— so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.

1,497 posted on 11/11/2010 6:21:43 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; OLD REGGIE; annalex; presently no screen name; RnMomof7; metmom; Belteshazzar; ...
The Holy Scripture is a written expression of the Holy Tradition that preceded it and is a larger body of knowledge, as the scripture itself teaches:

there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written. (John 21)

1,498 posted on 11/11/2010 6:22:23 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
That is not a proof of the existence of the mythical biological brothers even on its face. It is a rhetorical question, which only proves that Jesus had relatives close to him in age that might appear to an outsider as brothers.

Matthew 13:53-5753And when Jesus had finished these parables, he went away from there, 54 and coming to his hometown he taught them in their synagogue, so that they were astonished, and said, "Where did this man get this wisdom and these mighty works? 55 Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not his mother called Mary? And are not his brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? 56And are not all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?" 57And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor except in his hometown and in his own household."

These were not outsiders. This event happened in His own hometown.

1,499 posted on 11/11/2010 6:25:31 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

True. But as they say on late night t.v.,

“Wait! There’s more!”


1,500 posted on 11/11/2010 6:28:43 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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