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Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: presently no screen name
1,521
posted on
11/12/2010 6:36:36 AM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: presently no screen name
"Feeling stuffed?" Actually fed up is a better description.
1,522
posted on
11/12/2010 6:53:59 AM PST
by
Natural Law
(lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi)
To: Alex Murphy; annalex; metmom
Mary remained a virgin in order to provide an incontrovertible evidence of the miraculous nature of the birth of Christ, and, quite simply, because her intimacy with God made sex superfluous.
Is a partnership with intent to never consummate the union a legal marriage?
Would a Rabbi perform this ceremony knowing the details?
Would this not be mocking God and marriage He created?
Do priests marry many people who intend to be celibate?
To: bkaycee; Alex Murphy; annalex
Mary remained a virgin in order to provide an incontrovertible evidence of the miraculous nature of the birth of Christ, and, quite simply, because her intimacy with God made sex superfluous. How does one know this as well? Did she say that?
God created Adam and Eve with the capability of procreating. He obviously intended them to do so. They were sinless and walked with God in the cool of the day and yet there was obviously the plan that they would have sex and children.
1,524
posted on
11/12/2010 8:01:04 AM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: Natural Law; presently no screen name
Actually fed up is a better description. Yup, sounds like stuffed to me when you reach your capacity.
You might as well give up. You're not going to win this one.
1,525
posted on
11/12/2010 8:02:56 AM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: Natural Law
Contrary to Reformist propaganda there was no outright selling of indulgences. The money raised built the Vatican
The Council of Trent instituted severe reforms in the practice of granting indulgences, and, because of prior abuses, "in 1567 Pope Pius V canceled all grants of indulgences involving any fees or other financial transactions" (Catholic Encyclopedia).
Seems the second paragraph negates the assertion of the first
1,526
posted on
11/12/2010 8:40:03 AM PST
by
RnMomof7
(Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
To: metmom; bkaycee
How does one know this as well? Did she say that? "Not tonight, dear - I have a great schema."
1,527
posted on
11/12/2010 8:41:19 AM PST
by
Alex Murphy
("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
To: annalex; metmom
Mary remained a virgin in order to provide an incontrovertible evidence of the miraculous nature of the birth of Christ, and, quite simply, because her intimacy with God made sex superfluous. She did not abstain from sex on the false notion that it would have been a sin for her.Source ????
1,528
posted on
11/12/2010 8:43:38 AM PST
by
RnMomof7
(Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
To: annalex
How do you know with certainty what the are the traditions of men and what are the traditions of God?
1,529
posted on
11/12/2010 8:46:13 AM PST
by
RnMomof7
(Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
To: metmom
THEY'RE the ones equating her virginity with sinlessness.Exactly ....
1,530
posted on
11/12/2010 8:48:10 AM PST
by
RnMomof7
(Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
To: smvoice
.now you say that Catholics are Pauline Christians?...?...Please, show me something to back that up...I feel some real IRONY forming here.."No replies."..((crickets))
1,531
posted on
11/12/2010 8:49:53 AM PST
by
RnMomof7
(Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
To: annalex; bkaycee
Faith Alone is false. The scripture teaches the exact oppositeScripture please
The Protestants, however, teach heresy. Faith Alone is heresy, and it is at the heart of Protestantism.
Catholics believe in faith in Rome alone saves them ...I guess it is just where one puts their faith ..As for me and mine..it is Jesus
1,532
posted on
11/12/2010 8:53:11 AM PST
by
RnMomof7
(Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
To: RnMomof7
it’s a good thing I didn’t stay up last night...waiting for that backup..;)
1,533
posted on
11/12/2010 8:55:17 AM PST
by
smvoice
(Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
To: RnMomof7; annalex; bkaycee; metmom; Quix; presently no screen name; Dr. Eckleburg
Catholics believe in faith in Rome alone saves them ...I guess it is just where one puts their faith ..As for me and mine..it is JesusI've been wondering about this lately..say (worst case scenario, I know) that the Pope came out next Sunday and spoke ex-cathedra: "God has shown me that we must leave this earthly life now. It is time to drink the bitter koolaid." ANd then he turns and walks back into the Vatican.
What would RCCs do? Just how much faith do they have in their pope, infallibility, traditions, doctrines, etc., really? Would they do as he said or would they walk/run away? Just HOW MUCH FAITH DO they have in Rome.
1,534
posted on
11/12/2010 9:05:32 AM PST
by
smvoice
(Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
To: metmom
"You're not going to win this one."Its not about winning or losing. Its about the truth and the truth will always ultimately win.
1,535
posted on
11/12/2010 9:16:26 AM PST
by
Natural Law
(lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi)
To: Natural Law
A small drop of light on the Religion Forum. Like a raindrop in a desert.
1,536
posted on
11/12/2010 9:19:40 AM PST
by
1010RD
(First Do No Harm)
To: annalex; presently no screen name
That is not a proof of the existence of the mythical biological brothers even on its face. It is a rhetorical question, which only proves that Jesus had relatives close to him in age that might appear to an outsider as brothers. Let's stick to your original claim which I refuted with Scripture.
She did not have any other children. "Brothers" of Christ are indeed mentioned, but, curious thing, every time a "brother" of Jesus is mentioned by name, his mother also is mentioned and she is not Mary.
MATTHEW - NAB
13:55 Is he not the carpenter's son? Is not his mother named Mary and his brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?
Brothers of Christ are listed and His mother is Mary
One thing at a time please.
1. Defend your claim.
2. Then divert to the standard Apologetics merry-go-round.
1,537
posted on
11/12/2010 9:58:54 AM PST
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
To: annalex; presently no screen name; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; Belteshazzar
it certainly is good enough perfect the man of God [sic]
This old guy could blame the keyboard but I must admit I fat fingered past the "to". :-)
The verse says that the study of the scripture produces a perfect clergyman. But it does not say that the study of the scripture alone does that. In fact, the previous verse, verse 14 say that Timothy has to start with the knowledge he learned from St. Paul orally. "Profitable" or "useful" means that it is added on to something else, namely, the Holy Tradition of the Church.
This is silly. Are you suggesting the entire series of letters from Paul to Timothy are restricted to Timothy alone? That the "man of God" can be limited to Timothy (or the clergy) alone?
Please note the "tradition" of which Paul speaks is past or present tense. The "tradition" taught by the Apostles was never hinted at as a constantly developing thing.
1,538
posted on
11/12/2010 10:25:22 AM PST
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; presently no screen name; RnMomof7; metmom; Belteshazzar
The Holy Scripture is a written expression of the Holy Tradition that preceded it and is a larger body of knowledge, as the scripture itself teaches:
there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written. (John 21) Yes, and many of the things which Jesus did which are none of our business. What is important is Scripture teaches us all we need.
Where do you find a Scriptural suggestion that we "add" to Scripture as we see fit?
1,539
posted on
11/12/2010 10:37:10 AM PST
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
To: Natural Law; metmom
Its not about winning or losing. Its about the truth and the truth will always ultimately win. The good news is it's not too late to begin. Keep trying.
1,540
posted on
11/12/2010 10:51:07 AM PST
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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