Posted on 10/15/2010 5:39:02 PM PDT by delacoert
Most of us have had a Mormon Missionary knock at our door. If you have ever invited them in and listened to a presentation of their beliefs, you probably found most but not all of what they said very similar to those beliefs held by Christians. However, while trying to convince you that your Church is wrong and the Mormon Church is right, there are several points they intentionally leave out. Below is a list of Mormon beliefs the missionaries will be reluctant to tell you about: |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that the God they worship was not always God. |
"We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe Jesus Christ is the spirit brother of Satan: |
"The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God. He was called Lucifer, son of the morning. Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind." (Milton R. Hunter, Gospel Through the Ages, pg.15) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that, according to Mormonism, Jesus Christ was a polygamist. |
"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children." (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses 2:210) |
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The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age. A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers. We might almost think they were 'Mormons'" (Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, 1:346) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that for at least half a century church leaders were teaching that Adam was really God and the only God with whom we have to do. |
"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken--He is our Father, and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do." (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:50) |
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"I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people and he is the god that pertains to this earth--The first man. That first man sent his own son to redeem the world..."(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 4:1) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that Brigham Young, who held the office of President of the Mormon church longer than any other man, taught that men must practice polygamy in order to become Gods. |
"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy." (Journal of Discourses 11:269) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that the book of Mormon fails to contain any Mormon doctrine |
Many portions of this Mormon Scripture even contradicts Mormon theology. |
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They will be reluctant to tell you about their secret temple ceremonies which, until April 1990, portrayed Christian ministers as hirelings of Satan. Nor will they tell you about the sacred underwear they are wearing which, they believe, actually protects them. |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that Mormon leaders have taught that Jesus was conceived by way of a sexual relationship between God and Mary. |
"..how are children begotten? I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father. The difference between Jesus Christ and other men is this: Our fathers in the flesh are mortal men, who are subject unto death: but the Father of Jesus Christ in the flesh is the god of Heaven" (Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pg. 125) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe the bible has been corrupted throughout the centuries and cannot be trusted fully by itself. |
"I believe the Bible as it read when it came from the pen of the original writers. Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph smith, pg.327) |
"But the Bible has been robbed of its plainness; many sacred books having been lost, others rejected by the Romish Church, and what few we have left, were copied and recopied so many times, that it is admitted that almost every verse has been corrupted and mutilated to that degree that any two of them read alike." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, pg.213) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants, which they claim to be both sacred and without error, contradict each other many times. |
For example, in the Book of Mormon, God called David and Solomon's act of polygamy an abomination, whereas in the Doctrine and Covenants He claims to justify it. Jacob 2:24 in the Book of Mormon says, "Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord." Section 132:1 in the Doctrine and Covenants, however, states: "Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines." |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that they use Christian terms with Mormon meanings. |
For example, a Mormon would probably agree with you that a person must be born again. To the Mormon, however, "born again" is a process which begins with water baptism. Another example are the words "salvation" and exaltation," which are synonymous in the Christian's mind. However, general salvation to the Mormon merely means the resurrection which everyone in the world will receive at death. Exaltation, or individual salvation, is the reward earned by the Mormon by following the laws of the Moron church. "Eternal Life" to the Mormon means Godhood. Regarding the word "scriptures," the Christian thinks of the Holy Bible while the Mormon could be thinking of not only the Bible but the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price as well. |
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They won't want to tell you that in order to gain entrance into the highest form of Mormon heaven, the Celestial kingdom, you must accept Joseph Smith, Jr. as a prophet of god. Faith in Jesus alone, Mormonism teaches, will force you to spend eternity in a lower form of heaven. |
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Tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated in his book, doctrines of Salvation, that there is "No salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. The word "salvation," used in this context, must really mean "exaltation" because former Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie stated in his book Mormon Doctrine that general salvation is given to everyone regardless of belief. Personal salvation or exaltation to the highest form of Mormon heaven comes only by accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of god and by following the laws of the LDS church. |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that their founder, Joseph Smith, Jr., made many false prophecies which, according to the Bible, would classify him as a false prophet rather than a true prophet of God. |
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For instance, in 1835 Smith claimed that the Lord would again come in just 56 years. We would gather from this "prophecy" that Jesus Christ would again come to earth on or before 1891; no doubt Joseph Smith was incorrect (History of the church 2:182). In 1832 Joseph Smith claimed he had a revelation concerning the building of a temple in Independence, Missouri. According to section 84, verses 4 and 5, of the Doctrine and Covenants, he stated this "temple shall be reared in this generation. For verily this generation shall not pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it..." to this day the spot consecrated by Smith fails to be the sight of a great temple, but instead is covered with a well-kept lawn. In fact, the Mormon church does not even own the land. |
Sign? Bull! Wear them on the OUTSIDE then!
NOOOOO! I live in Utah! I don't want to see all these people's underwear!!!!!!!!
Anyway, aren't we supposed to know Christians by their love, not their skivvies?
Fruit, not fruit-of-the-looms?
Undecided readers,
Paragon Defender Maxims:
"The way to highlight the straw man is to embody him!" "Make the posters the issue, not the issues."
As of December 31, 2009, there were 51,736 LDS missionaries serving in 344 church missions throughout the world. Their work, often in cooperation with local members, resulted in 280,106 convert baptisms in 2009.[12] Author David Stewart points out that the number of convert baptisms per missionary per year has fallen from a high of 8.03 in 1989 to just 4.67 in 2005.[13] He argues that the number of converts would increase if Mormon missionaries made greater efforts in meeting new people; he points out that the average companionship spends only four or five hours per week attempting to meet new people.[13]
How terrible it is that a handful of Christians post a handful of threads per week on FreeRepublic to counter the proselytizing efforts of the missionaries and public relations campaign of the mormon church. Don't you just feel SO sorry that the poor, persecuted mormons aren't able to have their message heard?
Now I see why you give so little credence to the bible. That must merely be the musings of men from thousands of years ago. By your recking, in less than 200 years your contemporary leadership will be blown off.
It is not simply the musings of 'men" these were "prophets" of God. Their own "Gospel Principles" tell us these are canon.
That LDS bus is riding on a lot of god's own prophets tossed under it due to the "normalization" project of the LDS. I'd say 200 years or a tick less is about right.
It is not simply the musings of 'men" these were "prophets" of God. Their own "Gospel Principles" tell us these are canon.
That LDS bus is riding on a lot of god's own prophets tossed under it due to the "normalization" project of the LDS. I'd say 200 years or a tick less is about right.
Same ole, same ole...
Yes, Eslie, the Momron effort to distance themselves from the actual heretical teaching of their supposed Apostles and prophets is open deceit. Even Gordon B Hinckley tried to distance himself from the Lorenzo Snow couplet, which notion was taught by Joseph SMith, the founder of Mormonism. But in the 1994 Council Hinckley had pointed to the couplet as vital, then when interviewed by Time magazine he tried to weasel out of knowing anything about it other than ‘the philosophy behind it’. It is openly deceitful. Knowing the truth about what mormonism teaches would be shocking to the public, so Mormons just lie and deny when the quotes are posted.
Enjoy the fun of being in the right.
And
By the way, when I go to bed at night, I am not fretting over whos going to hell and whos not. I figure thats Heavenly Fathers business and He is the Only One who has it all figured out.
Hum...
So you think it is "heavenly fathers" business on who is going to heaven and hell YET you are thankful for the 52000 LDS Missionaries who go out trying to "save' folks...
You are an cornucopia of contradictions there SD...
Persistent lies and attempts to discredit your "opponents".
In other words, without demonstrating where this is occurring, bearing false witness.
I propose that this demonstrates that Mr. Millet's sermon on the matter is accepted as a legitimate course of action to take.
Taqiya mormon style.
Waaaahh!!! Call the wahmbulance!
Hypocrisy is overflowing.
We anti's get to be associated with murderers and arsonists, yet the wafer thin skinned mormons can't take a little serving of it back.
We’re talking post-resurrection. Not OT. You brought up Revelations and now you want to go to other end of the Bible.
God does not and will not contradict Himself.
You’re trying to move the goal posts.
Youre having fun arent you ???
:)
You know stourme, the day I finally go this about the LDS was the day it all clicked for me.
Jesus is just a stepping-stone. He is USED to achieve your own glory.
"Following Him" to LDS means something entirely different to a Christan than a Mormon, that's clear.
At some point, you expect to STOP following him it appears. After all, you'll be equals. Buds. Bros. Adios and thanks for the ride.
Fruit, not fruit-of-the-looms?
The rank and putrid hypocrisy flowing in those posts is almost too much to bear, but it’s worth pointing it out as such so that the poster doesn’t get to claim “victimhood”.
So yeah, I’m having fun. You?
Hey those are turbo charged four wheel drive goal posts...
Custom made in SLC...
From what I’m seeing, they’re WARP SPEED goal posts, Enterprise style.
Must be the latest revelation from general council - instead of following the prophet, it has been changed to toss the prophet under the bus.
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