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What Mormon Missionaries WON'T Tell You
Contender Ministries [False Religions] ^ | unknown | anonymous

Posted on 10/15/2010 5:39:02 PM PDT by delacoert

Most of us have had a Mormon Missionary knock at our door.  If you have ever invited them in and listened to a presentation of their beliefs, you probably found most but not all of what they said very similar to those beliefs held by Christians.  However, while trying to convince you that your Church is wrong and the Mormon Church is right, there are several points they intentionally leave out.  Below is a list of Mormon beliefs the missionaries will be reluctant to tell you about:

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the God they worship was not always God.

"We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity.  I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see."  (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe Jesus Christ is the spirit brother of Satan:

"The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God.  He was called Lucifer, son of the morning.  Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind."  (Milton R. Hunter, Gospel Through the Ages, pg.15)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that, according to Mormonism, Jesus Christ was a polygamist.

"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children."  (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses 2:210)

 

The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age.  A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers.  We might almost think they were 'Mormons'" (Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, 1:346)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that for at least half a century church leaders were teaching that Adam was really God and the only God with whom we have to do.

"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner!  When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him.  He helped to make and organize this world.  He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken--He is our Father, and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do."  (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:50)

 

"I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people and he is the god that pertains to this earth--The first man.  That first man sent his own son to redeem the world..."(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 4:1)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that Brigham Young, who held the office of President of the Mormon church longer than any other man, taught that men must practice polygamy in order to become Gods.

"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy."  (Journal of Discourses 11:269)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the book of Mormon fails to contain any Mormon doctrine

Many portions of this Mormon Scripture even contradicts Mormon theology.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you about their secret temple ceremonies which, until April 1990, portrayed Christian ministers as hirelings of Satan.  Nor will they tell you about the sacred underwear they are wearing which, they believe, actually protects them.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that Mormon leaders have taught that Jesus was conceived by way of a sexual relationship between God and Mary.

"..how are children begotten?  I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father.  The difference between Jesus Christ and other men is this:  Our fathers in the flesh are mortal men, who are subject unto death: but the Father of Jesus Christ in the flesh is the god of Heaven" (Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pg. 125)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe the bible has been corrupted throughout the centuries and cannot be trusted fully by itself.

"I believe the Bible as it read when it came from the pen of the original writers.  Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph smith, pg.327)

"But the Bible has been robbed of its plainness; many sacred books having been lost, others rejected by the Romish Church, and what few we have left, were copied and recopied so many times, that it is admitted that almost every verse has been corrupted and mutilated to that degree that any two of them read alike." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, pg.213)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants, which they claim to be both sacred and without error, contradict each other many times.

For example, in the Book of Mormon, God called David and Solomon's act of polygamy an abomination, whereas in the Doctrine and Covenants He claims to justify it.  Jacob 2:24 in the Book of Mormon says, "Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord."  Section 132:1 in the Doctrine and Covenants, however, states: "Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines."

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they use Christian terms with Mormon meanings.

For example, a Mormon would probably agree with you that a person must be born again.  To the Mormon, however, "born again" is a process which begins with water baptism.  Another example are the words "salvation" and exaltation," which are synonymous in the Christian's mind.  However, general salvation to the Mormon merely means the resurrection which everyone in the world will receive at death.  Exaltation, or individual salvation, is the reward earned by the Mormon by following the laws of the Moron church.  "Eternal Life" to the Mormon means Godhood.  Regarding the word "scriptures," the Christian thinks of the Holy Bible while the Mormon could be thinking of not only the Bible but the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price as well.

 

They won't want to tell you that in order to gain entrance into the highest form of Mormon heaven, the Celestial kingdom, you must accept Joseph Smith, Jr. as a prophet of god.  Faith in Jesus alone, Mormonism teaches, will force you to spend eternity in a lower form of heaven.

 

Tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated in his book, doctrines of Salvation, that there is "No salvation without accepting Joseph Smith.  The word "salvation," used in this context, must really mean "exaltation" because former Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie stated in his book Mormon Doctrine that general salvation is given to everyone regardless of belief.  Personal salvation or exaltation to the highest form of Mormon heaven comes only by accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of god and by following the laws of the LDS church.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that their founder, Joseph Smith, Jr., made many false prophecies which, according to the Bible, would classify him as a false prophet rather than a true prophet of God.

 

For instance, in 1835 Smith claimed that the Lord would again come in just 56 years.  We would gather from this "prophecy" that Jesus Christ would again come to earth on or before 1891; no doubt Joseph Smith was incorrect (History of the church 2:182).  In 1832 Joseph Smith claimed he had a revelation concerning the building of a temple in Independence, Missouri.  According to section 84, verses 4 and 5, of the Doctrine and Covenants, he stated this "temple shall be reared in this generation.  For verily this generation shall not pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it..."  to this day the spot consecrated by Smith fails to be the sight of a great temple, but instead is covered with a well-kept lawn.  In fact, the Mormon church does not even own the land.

 


TOPICS: Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: apostasy; blasphemy; falsereligion; inman; josephsmith; lds; mormonism; unscriptural
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taut = taught ... shirley these old fingers aren’t that tired yet. This could be hugh and quite series!


641 posted on 10/19/2010 3:24:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

That’s why we Mormons take the Sacrament (Communion) every Sunday. Catholics do that, too. It’s renewing our Covenants.
________________________________________

AH NOOOOOOOOO

Sandy you know that Catholics are Christians and therefore dont believe and practice anything the mormons who are not Christiansd believe and practice...

Bad sneaky try...


642 posted on 10/19/2010 3:27:27 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: T Minus Four; SZonian

And it matters to me, too! :D


643 posted on 10/19/2010 3:34:16 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Saundra Duffy

Thank Goodness for the Atoning Sacrifice of our lord and savior, jesus christ
________________________________________

Sandy your jesus christ may have done his sweatin to the oldies with his friend Richard Simmons

But his sweatin got people “atoned” as much as the sweatin of Richard Simmons would be able too...


644 posted on 10/19/2010 3:34:35 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie

Heads up Els

21 ta go

:)


645 posted on 10/19/2010 3:35:57 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: FormerACLUmember
Oh please, leave the Mormons alone. They are harmless, as far as I can tell.

Fear. One could run for president!

646 posted on 10/19/2010 3:39:26 PM PDT by SeeSac
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; restornu; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; ...
Looks like we have a WINNER! The award goes to Resty for her comment "“yammering mocking demons!”

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647 posted on 10/19/2010 3:48:37 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Saundra Duffy

“the stupid decisions that we dumb YWAMers had to stomach. You weren’t supposed to complain about anything: “Touch not mine anointed.””

1. And then you joined the cult of mormonism where “once the leaders have spoken, the thinking is done!”

Strange. Very strange.

2. So what you are telling us is that you had a problem with people who were fallible, so you joined the cult of mormonism where God is fallible, being a man?

Strange. Very strange.

3. You disagreed with the leaders of YWAM and the Belize church because they were fallible people, then you joined the cult of mormonism, which was started by Joseph Smith, a false prophet, treasure seeker, scammer and world class horndog because it’s true?

Strange. Very strange.

In your post, you come off as a very confused and inconsistent person who is in a cult...


648 posted on 10/19/2010 3:49:51 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: SeeSac

One could run for president!
________________________________________

A couple already have

at least 3...

Joey Smith 1844 (swupported by the Democrats)

George Romney 1964, 1968 (helped the Democrat win)

Willard Mitt Romney 2008 (worked against the Republican)

How did those times work out ???


649 posted on 10/19/2010 3:51:32 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu
a cesspool of mostly yammering mocking demons!

If I marry enough wimmins I'll be a GOD!

650 posted on 10/19/2010 3:53:33 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: reaganaut

Looks like we have a WINNER! The award goes to Resty for her comment ““yammering mocking demons!”

CONGRATULATIONS RESTY!!!!!!!!!!!

I’ve noticed that the mormon posts have become increasingly personal, accusatory and over the top. Yet, even with that level of competition, you managed to post something that topped even previous Hitler accusations.

Yammering is such a fun word to say too.

Kind of like Merry Smithmas.

anyway, congrats.

ampu


651 posted on 10/19/2010 3:58:54 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Saundra Duffy
The Articles of Faith
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints... let me help you get started!

  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. [We also believe God, the Eternal Father used to be a sinful man and later became God the Father. We also believe Jesus Christ was a created spirit being, who later became a man and later became a mormon god. We also believe the Holy Ghost was a created spirit being, who never got a body because he sinned. We also believe these are three separate gods and not ONE God, as the Bible talks about. Also, since they were all created spirit beings, some of which got bodies on earth before becoming mormon gods, they used to not be eternal, but now they are eternal. We also believe there is a Heavenly Mother God, well, at least one, maybe more than one, since we still believe in celestial polygamy. We also believe there are millions or even trillions of other mormon gods and than each mormon male can potentially become a god too, complete with his own goddess wives, a planet, worshippers, etc. This depends on doing enough mormonic works. Every mormon woman can potentially become a mormonic goddess and become eternally pregnant. All told, we believe in a lot of gods.]

Joseph Smith

652 posted on 10/19/2010 4:01:03 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; All
http://www.wikihow.com/Leave-the-Mormon-Church-Gracefully

    1. Write out a list of reasons why you are leaving the church, sometimes it helps to have something solid to look at when Mormon family and friends try to convince you otherwise of your decisions.
    2. Do some research on the actual doctrines and practices of the Church over time. Many people find it is much easier to leave the church once they come to a solid decision. Ask your Bishop for help in making a final decision. He should be grateful to help and hopefully realize that it's a private matter and will keep everything confidential.
    3. Many ex-Mormons and people considering leaving the church find it helpful to seek out and talk to or read blogs and articles by others who have left the church. Doing so is a good way to expand your understanding of the church and strengthen your resolve. There are many websites, archives, and blogs on the internet which you can turn to to find a diverse and supportive community of people willing to help you make the transition out of the church.
    4. It's usually not particularly effective to attempt to explain to Mormons why you are leaving, so attempting to help them understand your reasons is likely to only result in frustration and increased friction with the Mormons who remain in your life. Faith does not rely on facts, so presenting evidence to people determined to believe is generally a waste of time and energy.
    5. Stop going to church and activities. When invited by members to attend, decline politely. If they insist, tell them you'll think about it, and then give it some actual thought. But always remain true to yourself.
    6. Tell those who ask about you that you appreciate their concern and that you are searching your heart to make decisions that are right for you. Be friendly, but politely and assertively tell them that you will no longer be attending church activities or functions.
    7. Find something to do that makes you feel good on days you would normally go to church/institute/activities. Talk to people about your feelings if you're feeling guilty/upset. Ask yourself why you feel that way.
    8. If you're certain that you'll never want to re-join the Church, write a letter to the Bishop and request to have your name removed from church records. The Bishop will most likely want to follow up with you to confirm your decision. Don't just blow him off. Go ahead and talk to him and affirm your decision. This is the fastest way to get your name removed.

653 posted on 10/19/2010 4:05:02 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: restornu
Jesus the only begotten Son of God was always God and a time would come that Jesus of the family of Chirst would be given divine divestiture of authority to speak in the name of God the Father.

Are you actually saying that Jesus will take over when God dies?

Because that's what it looks like you are saying.

What mormon prophet is casting this bait?

654 posted on 10/19/2010 4:22:21 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Osage Orange
Sounds like Mormons believe the Mormon god will eventually join the council of gods, making decisions about what god will be sent to rule which planet. Having ‘gained the attributes of godhood’, the Mormon god would be useful as an also ran god when deciding what hoops the lesser beings on the various planets (and Moons, mustn't forget the Mormon founders believe Quakeresque folks live on the Moon) must jump through to be exalted and become members of a godhead and eventually climb the pyramid scheme to the council of gods. But of course, mustn't accuse Mormons of believing in polytheism, oh no, not that.
655 posted on 10/19/2010 4:45:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Osage Orange
Let's see, since the Mormon god was once a man, when he 'gained' exaltation and became a god, was he on a list of such 'gainers' under consideration for appointment to be the god of Earth? I wonder, is the keeping of the lists one of the tasks of the goddesses married to the gods on the council, so they keep up with all that stuff when not birthing myriad saints for eventual bodies? And this council, what is the selection criteria for the eventual winner(s). But oh noes, mustn't speak of polytheism in Mormonism.

In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 5, 1844)

656 posted on 10/19/2010 4:51:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Osage Orange

You are distorting my words to confused the lurker...

....this is a cesspool filled with anties who delight in being bearers of falsehoods!


657 posted on 10/19/2010 4:54:53 PM PDT by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: MHGinTN
Oh my, noes, I forgot to post source! ...

I will go back to the beginning, before the world was, to show what kind of a being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? Open your ears and hear, all ye ends of the earth; for I am going to prove it to you by the Bible, and to tell you the designs of God in relation to the human race, and why he interferes with the affairs of man. God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 3, 1844)

658 posted on 10/19/2010 4:55:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: restornu

Perhaps the great and powerful Resty would like to point out the falsehoods in the above quotes FROM JOSEPH SMITH teaching polytheism through his ‘journal of Discourses’?


659 posted on 10/19/2010 4:57:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: restornu
No, I am asking what you are saying.

I believe mormon's speak falsehoods everyday..when they repeat J. Smith's and B. Young's words.

Frankly I think that LDS, Inc. would love to run far away from Smith and Young. But they can't. They are stuck. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. And the $$$$ keeps them where they are. Period.

And Resty you are just a pawn in the game.

660 posted on 10/19/2010 5:03:56 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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