Posted on 10/15/2010 5:39:02 PM PDT by delacoert
Oh, don't bother posting anything from Mosiah because I think it's pure fiction and not of God. Do you still love me?
How can reaganaut who rejects walking the walk fix anything...
*** True but your deportment has not always displayed those qualities
Wait, you said a Christian was one who followed Jesus. You didn't say anything about their deportment.
And what exactly about my deportment do you think is lacking?
you really shouldn’t talk about yourself that way, resty.
Jesus died for you too, all you have to do is accept Him and quit trying to follow the traditions of men!
If you are honest you only know what is presented in the BIble beyond that what else happen you have no clue and neither do I as mortals.
So to dispute as though it is absolute it has no merit.
I am sure at one time before the corrupt scribes and Tradition of men that knowledge was known on the Eastern Hemisphere!
that too was answered in the talk
You have a king and queen they have a male offspring whom they begat an carries the family name and will someday be crown and given divestiture [sic]of authority.
Jesus the only begotten Son of God was always God and a time would come that Jesus of the family of Chirst would be given divine divestiture [sic] of authority to speak in the name of God the Father.
When Prince William is crowned the next king of Britain, he does not become Queen Elizabeth. He becomes the next in a line of kings and queens.
and when he assumes power, Queen E relinquishes it. Is that how it works with your line of godly succession? Does that mean that at some point Jesus will step down as God so his only begotten son will lay claim to the throne? I thought godhood was forever.
So maybe you believe that Jesus is the next in a royal line of god-kings stretching back eternally, but that does not make him eternal.
...and that's fine if you want to believe that, we have freedom of religion in this country, but that is not Christianity.
gentic = genetic
What talk?!?!
It is you who is changing meaning.
God the Eternal Father will always be God the prime directive there is none above Him, He is the Father of the only begotten son and of our spirits there is no other, just like there is no other as the only begotten Son Jesus the Christ who is the Redeemer and Savior of our souls!
Jesus Christ as Father in the Book of Mormon
http://www.byub.org/talks/Talk.aspx?id=1411
mostly yammering mocking demons!
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So, Resty, you have seen demons ???
and I do too...
HUGS
I love you too Nana!
"We were begotten by our Father in Heaven; the person of our Father in Heaven was begotten on a previous heavenly world by His Father; and again, He was begotten by a still more ancient Father; and so on, from generation to generation, ... we wonder in our minds, how far back the genealogy extends, and how the first world was formed, and the first father was begotten" (Orson Pratt, The Seer, p.132).
"Some people are troubled over the statements of the Prophet Joseph Smith.... The matter that seems such a mystery is the statement that our Father in heaven at one time passed through a life and death and is an exalted man. This is one of the mysteries.... The Prophet taught that our Father had a Father and so on. Is not this a reasonable thought, especially when we remember that the promises are made to us that we may become like him?" (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp.10, 12).
In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 5, 1844)
In the very beginning the Bible shows there is a plurality of Gods beyond the power of refutation. It is a great subject I am dwelling on. The word Eloheim ought to be in the plural all the way through--Gods. The heads of the Gods appointed ONE God for us... (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 372)
According to Smith's worldview, "the heads of the Gods appointed one God for us. Whatever "time frame" or eternity is chosen, only ONE GOD was chosen by a plurality of gods. It doesn't say a plurality of gods was chosen by a plurality of gods. Therefore, no Mormon godhead existed when the council chose the Mormon one god! Apparently, the godhead of god the father, god the holy spirit, and god the jesus developed later .
The convolutions/confusions are rife in Mormonism. Despite the above teaching, LDS leader, Bruce McConkie, taught that lds worship 3 gods: "Three separate personages-Father, Son and holy Ghost- comprise the Godhead…these three are the only Gods we worship."(Mormon Doctrine 1966 ed. P.576-577).
“I will go back to the beginning, before the world was, to show what kind of a being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? Open your ears and hear, all ye ends of the earth; for I am going to prove it to you by the Bible, and to tell you the designs of God in relation to the human race, and why he interferes with the affairs of man. God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 3, 1844)
“I learned a testimony concerning Abraham, and he reasoned concerning the Gods of heaven. '...Intelligences exist one above another, so that there is no end to them.' If Abraham reasoned thus--If Jesus Christ was the Son of God, and John discovered that God the Father of Jesus Christ had a Father, you may suppose that He had a Father also. Where was there ever a son without a father? And where was there ever a father without first being a son? Whenever did a tree or anything spring into existence without a progenitor? And everything comes in this way. Paul says that which is earthly is in the likeness of that which is heavenly. Hence if Jesus had a Father, can we not believe that He had a Father also? I despise the idea of being scared to death at such a doctrine, for the Bible is full of it. I want you to pay particular attention to what I am saying. Jesus said that the Father wrought precisely in the same way as His Father had done before Him. As the Father had done before? He laid down His life, and took it up the same as His Father had done before. (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 373)
What's being said here? … The teaching of infinite regression of gods! Smith is claiming that Jesus had a grandpa and great-grandpa!
Finally, Smith claims that God the Father also laid down His life in some sort of redemptive way, to earn/gain exaltation! Which means whatever "time" you want to leave undefined, apparently God the Father had time enough to live as a man and die as a man for some whole other world.
We were begotten by our Father in Heaven; the person of our Father in Heaven was begotten on a previous heavenly world by His Father; and again, He was begotten by a still more ancient Father, and so on, from generation to generation, from one heavenly world to another still more ancient, until our minds are wearied and lost in the multiplicity of generations and successive worlds, … and as a last resort, we wonder in our minds, how far back the genealogy extends, and how the first world was formed, and the first father was begotten. But why does man seek for a first, when revelation informs him that God's works are without beginning? (Lds apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 132, 1853)
By the way, back to my deportment. What exactly about it has you so disappointed in me?
Jesus of the family of Chirst
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No Resty there no such “family”
Christ is not the surname of Jesus
Christ is what He is
His “job description”
The Greek word Christos means Messiah in Hebrew, the Anointed One...
There is only one Christ...
and He is the LORD Jesus Chrsit...
Jesus Christ is LORD...
Jesus the Mesiah is LORD
Yeshua Ha’Mashiyach is LORD
Jesus the Anonted One is LORD
You have a king and queen they have a male offspring whom
they begat an carries the family name and will someday be crown and given divestiture of authority.
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Well the mormons might because they have a “queen” godess or two or a few million...
but we Christians dont...
The Virgin Mary was not a queen nor a godess...
I started keeping a list of the slurs and names called way back in 2007, but there were so many I couldn't even begin to keep up with them...however, recently one could just keep track of the posting history link for a couple of mormons to get a pretty portrait of just who is throwing the hatred around.
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