What Mormon Missionaries WON'T Tell You

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[delacoert]

Most of us have had a Mormon Missionary knock at our door.  If you have ever invited them in and listened to a presentation of their beliefs, you probably found most but not all of what they said very similar to those beliefs held by Christians.  However, while trying to convince you that your Church is wrong and the Mormon Church is right, there are several points they intentionally leave out.  Below is a list of Mormon beliefs the missionaries will be reluctant to tell you about:

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the God they worship was not always God.

"We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity.  I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see."  (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe Jesus Christ is the spirit brother of Satan:

"The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God.  He was called Lucifer, son of the morning.  Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind."  (Milton R. Hunter, Gospel Through the Ages, pg.15)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that, according to Mormonism, Jesus Christ was a polygamist.

"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children."  (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses 2:210)

 

The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age.  A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers.  We might almost think they were 'Mormons'" (Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, 1:346)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that for at least half a century church leaders were teaching that Adam was really God and the only God with whom we have to do.

"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner!  When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him.  He helped to make and organize this world.  He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken--He is our Father, and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do."  (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:50)

 

"I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people and he is the god that pertains to this earth--The first man.  That first man sent his own son to redeem the world..."(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 4:1)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that Brigham Young, who held the office of President of the Mormon church longer than any other man, taught that men must practice polygamy in order to become Gods.

"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy."  (Journal of Discourses 11:269)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the book of Mormon fails to contain any Mormon doctrine

Many portions of this Mormon Scripture even contradicts Mormon theology.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you about their secret temple ceremonies which, until April 1990, portrayed Christian ministers as hirelings of Satan.  Nor will they tell you about the sacred underwear they are wearing which, they believe, actually protects them.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that Mormon leaders have taught that Jesus was conceived by way of a sexual relationship between God and Mary.

"..how are children begotten?  I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father.  The difference between Jesus Christ and other men is this:  Our fathers in the flesh are mortal men, who are subject unto death: but the Father of Jesus Christ in the flesh is the god of Heaven" (Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pg. 125)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe the bible has been corrupted throughout the centuries and cannot be trusted fully by itself.

"I believe the Bible as it read when it came from the pen of the original writers.  Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph smith, pg.327)

"But the Bible has been robbed of its plainness; many sacred books having been lost, others rejected by the Romish Church, and what few we have left, were copied and recopied so many times, that it is admitted that almost every verse has been corrupted and mutilated to that degree that any two of them read alike." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, pg.213)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants, which they claim to be both sacred and without error, contradict each other many times.

For example, in the Book of Mormon, God called David and Solomon's act of polygamy an abomination, whereas in the Doctrine and Covenants He claims to justify it.  Jacob 2:24 in the Book of Mormon says, "Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord."  Section 132:1 in the Doctrine and Covenants, however, states: "Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines."

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they use Christian terms with Mormon meanings.

For example, a Mormon would probably agree with you that a person must be born again.  To the Mormon, however, "born again" is a process which begins with water baptism.  Another example are the words "salvation" and exaltation," which are synonymous in the Christian's mind.  However, general salvation to the Mormon merely means the resurrection which everyone in the world will receive at death.  Exaltation, or individual salvation, is the reward earned by the Mormon by following the laws of the Moron church.  "Eternal Life" to the Mormon means Godhood.  Regarding the word "scriptures," the Christian thinks of the Holy Bible while the Mormon could be thinking of not only the Bible but the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price as well.

 

They won't want to tell you that in order to gain entrance into the highest form of Mormon heaven, the Celestial kingdom, you must accept Joseph Smith, Jr. as a prophet of god.  Faith in Jesus alone, Mormonism teaches, will force you to spend eternity in a lower form of heaven.

 

Tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated in his book, doctrines of Salvation, that there is "No salvation without accepting Joseph Smith.  The word "salvation," used in this context, must really mean "exaltation" because former Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie stated in his book Mormon Doctrine that general salvation is given to everyone regardless of belief.  Personal salvation or exaltation to the highest form of Mormon heaven comes only by accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of god and by following the laws of the LDS church.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that their founder, Joseph Smith, Jr., made many false prophecies which, according to the Bible, would classify him as a false prophet rather than a true prophet of God.

 

For instance, in 1835 Smith claimed that the Lord would again come in just 56 years.  We would gather from this "prophecy" that Jesus Christ would again come to earth on or before 1891; no doubt Joseph Smith was incorrect (History of the church 2:182).  In 1832 Joseph Smith claimed he had a revelation concerning the building of a temple in Independence, Missouri.  According to section 84, verses 4 and 5, of the Doctrine and Covenants, he stated this "temple shall be reared in this generation.  For verily this generation shall not pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it..."  to this day the spot consecrated by Smith fails to be the sight of a great temple, but instead is covered with a well-kept lawn.  In fact, the Mormon church does not even own the land.

 

[ejonesie22]

Thank you for posting that explanation. It stands on its own.

[T Minus Four]

Some antis are evil SOP who love to twist and malign words and their cunningness comes from listening the devil!

Then you should have no trouble naming JUST ONE RESTY!

We are all sick of your "clever" inuendos and attempts to slide the knife in without the mods noticing. You're insulting us and the mods.

By the way, you spelled SOB wrong.

[T Minus Four]

OK, so now I’m a yammering, mocking demon swimming around in a cesspool. But I’m sure you don’t mean that personally [/s]

[T Minus Four]

Gee Resty, where’s the cavalry? Don’t you need two or three witnesses to accuse someone?

[T Minus Four]

A yammering, mocking second to that nomination.

[restornu]

No it is SOP

‘A guilty conscience needs no accuser.

[T Minus Four]

Resty, that's all very interesting and you're welcome to believe it, but please stop calling it Christianity, cause it ain't. God being eternal is not "in the genetic sense". It's quite literal. PS I don't think you understand what "divestiture" means <>

[MHGinTN]

Resty, do you realize that what you offered is self-contradictory, and contraqdicts what the King James Bible teaches?

Aside from the notion implied that there was a goddess who mated with god, to sire the offspring jesus of Mormonism, if, as you post implies, jesus came into existence with the union of the goddess and god, then there was a where/when that the jesus you speak/write of was not in existence, even as a spirit being.

Since Mormonism teaches that god the father was once a man and 'gained' godhood attributes, your assertion would be consistent with Mormonism teaching, but not with what the Bible teaches regarding 'In the Beginning' and what John 1:1-5 teaches.

Not even the Joseph Smith translation of the King James Bible can rectify this difference in Smith's teaching and the King James Bible assertions.

Which is then the truth about Jesus: Is Jesus The Word Who was God in the beginning and without Whom nothing was made that was made, OR is jesus a created being, the product of a union between a god and goddess who once were not gods either and gained the attributes of godhood?

[T Minus Four]

It matters to me too SZ. Thank you!

[T Minus Four]

The question is, do you love me?

[greyfoxx39]

Does the “Pure Adamic Language” have the same alphabet as English?

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Adamic means  Speaking in Tongues

Brigham Young prophet, seer and revelator of the Mormon church, spoke "in tongues".  Speaking in tongues  means talking Adamic.

"As soon as we arose from our knees the brethren flocked around him, and asked his [Brigham Young's] opinion concerning the gift of tongues that was upon me. He told them it was the pure Adamic language. "

"The members of the branch in Pennsylvania were the first in the Church who received the gift of tongues."

"Brother Alpheus Gifford commenced speaking in tongues. Soon the Spirit came on me, and I spoke in tongues, and we thought only of the day of Pentecost, when the Apostles were clothed upon with cloven tongues of fire. "

" We exhorted them and prayed with them, and I spoke in tongues. Some pronounced it genuine and from the Lord, and others pronounced it of the devil."

"He called upon me to pray; in my prayer I spoke in tongues."

" I found the Saints in confusion; they had the gift of tongues among them, and the interpretation, and they were so ignorant of the nature of these gifts that they supposed that everything which was spoken in tongues was immediate revelation from God; a false spirit had therefore crept in, and division was the result."

 Autobiography (1801-1844) in Manuscript History of Brigham Young; Source: Manuscript History of Brigham Young, 1801-1844, ed. Elden Jay Watson (Salt Lake City: Smith Secretarial Service, 1968). MANUSCRIPT HISTORY of BRIGHAM YOUNG /www.math.byu.edu/~smithw/Lds/LDS/Early-Saints/MSHBY.html

 

 

Borrowed Words:   Like all languages, Adamic has a percentage of foreign words:

ADAMIC             Enish-go-on-dosh	ENGLISH ... (Old Pre- Demotic Egyptian) 1. morning and evening star [venus]
Gonhorra,  (Gon-horria)	... (Modern Telestial) 1. heavenly mother Gonhorra  [God's #1 wife's name] 2. slang queen bee 3. a hairy-bodied, stinging insect in the order Hymenoptera
Kolob	... (Modern Telestial) a planet (or star) nigh onto the residence of gods; "the first creation which is nearest to the celestial, or the residence of God",  (McConkie)
spr-tchuhl	... (Old Tralfamadorian) of, relating to, or having the nature of spirit; not tangible or material. Synonym immaterial, ethereal.
Urim-thumim	... (Old Tralfamadorian) Universal Language Translator, ULT. See Seer Stone, Hat.  See also Liahona-- Primitive GPS system.
Floeese	... (Reformed Egyptian) 1. moon n.
Quetzalcóatl	... (from Old Aztec) 1. spiritual and physical union of Jehovah, the father, and Jesus the Son, in the form of a snake with orange plumage. 2. precious twin
Shiblon	... (unknown origin) 1. any measure-barley,  2.   1  shiblon  equals  ½ senum = ½  = 2 shiblum = 1/3 shiblon [ Source: Book Of Mormon, Alma (15, 16, 19)] 3.  equivocal
	NOTE:    Adamic is rich in borrowed words, for it is truly a Universal and even Intergalactic  language -- it is spoken by all gods on all planets, though some and dialects exist. (The Prophet Brigham Young told us that Moon-men communicate in Adamic).  These are beyond the scope of this web site; see Mormon-Language.org.  The foreign words catalogued here represent over 200% more words than the pure Adamic language, so this certainly suffices to carry on any Heavenly conversation! Good luck with your new knowledge of Adamic.  Adamic is fun.  If you wish to purchase the Berlitz audio course, "Learn Adamic While You Sleep" on CD, please visit Amazon.com.

[restornu]

I spell that wrong it is

divine investiture of authority

giving authority to speak for another.

as far the being called Christian you can murmur until the cows come home but it still means one who follows Jesus Christ which the LDS do!

[T Minus Four]

You're so funny :-)

OK, I'll play for another minute. Let's go with the "divine investiture of authority" thingy. Who is the one who has the power to invest this prince with the authoprity of his father the king (and his mother the queen).

[reaganaut]

I don’t have a copy of it directly. I do have a copy of Tanner’s 3914 changes in the BoM which I think uses the first edition. I can check next time I am up at the school.

[reaganaut]

Well done! Thank you.

[T Minus Four]

as far the being called Christian you can murmur until the cows come home but it still means one who follows Jesus Christ which the LDS do!

Then by your definition am I a Christian? I claim to follow Jesus.

[restornu]

The question is, do you love me?

Am I disappointed with the diologue towards the LDS yes but the Lord said to Love One Another.

Now only in word but in the heart and the answer is YES even though I am frustrated that opposition has such a hold on so many hearts of the children of the Lord.

Mosiah 4: 6, 11
6 I say unto you, if ye have come to a knowledge of the goodness of God, and his matchless power, and his wisdom, and his patience, and his long-suffering towards the children of men; and also, the atonement which has been prepared from the foundation of the world, that thereby salvation might come to him that should put his trust in the Lord, and should be diligent in keeping his commandments, and continue in the faith even unto the end of his life, I mean the life of the mortal body—

• • •

11 And again I say unto you as I have said before, that as ye have come to the knowledge of the glory of God, or if ye have known of his goodness and have tasted of his love, and have received a remission of your sins, which causeth such exceedingly great joy in your souls, even so I would that ye should remember, and always retain in remembrance, the greatness of God, and your own nothingness, and his goodness and long-suffering towards you, unworthy creatures, and humble yourselves even in the depths of humility, calling on the name of the Lord daily, and standing steadfastly in the faith of that which is to come, which was spoken by the mouth of the angel.

[reaganaut]

Some MORMONS are evil SOP who love to twist and malign words and their cunningness comes from listening the devil!

There, fixed it for you.

[restornu]

Then by your definition am I a Christian? I claim to follow Jesus.

***

True but your deportment has not always displayed those qualities!

[MHGinTN]

Perhaps you missed my response, so here are the comments questions again.

Resty, do you realize that what you offered is self-contradictory, and contraqdicts what the King James Bible teaches?

Aside from the notion implied that there was a goddess who mated with 'a god', to sire the offspring jesus of Mormonism and all other spirit beings, if, as your post implies, jesus came into existence with the union of the goddess and god, then there was a where/when that the jesus you speak/write of was not in existence, even as a spirit being.

Since Mormonism teaches that god the father was once a man and 'gained' godhood attributes, your assertion would be consistent with the duplicity of Mormonism teaching, but not with what the Bible teaches regarding 'In the Beginning' and what John 1:1-5 teaches.

Not even the Joseph Smith translation of the King James Bible can rectify this difference in Smith's teaching and the King James Bible assertions.

Which is then the truth about Jesus? ... Is Jesus The Word Who was God in the beginning and without Whom nothing was made that was made, OR is jesus a created being, the product of a union between a god and goddess who once were not gods either and gained the attributes of godhood?