What Mormon Missionaries WON'T Tell You

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[delacoert]

Most of us have had a Mormon Missionary knock at our door.  If you have ever invited them in and listened to a presentation of their beliefs, you probably found most but not all of what they said very similar to those beliefs held by Christians.  However, while trying to convince you that your Church is wrong and the Mormon Church is right, there are several points they intentionally leave out.  Below is a list of Mormon beliefs the missionaries will be reluctant to tell you about:

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the God they worship was not always God.

"We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity.  I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see."  (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe Jesus Christ is the spirit brother of Satan:

"The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God.  He was called Lucifer, son of the morning.  Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind."  (Milton R. Hunter, Gospel Through the Ages, pg.15)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that, according to Mormonism, Jesus Christ was a polygamist.

"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children."  (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses 2:210)

 

The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age.  A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers.  We might almost think they were 'Mormons'" (Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, 1:346)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that for at least half a century church leaders were teaching that Adam was really God and the only God with whom we have to do.

"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner!  When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him.  He helped to make and organize this world.  He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken--He is our Father, and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do."  (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:50)

 

"I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people and he is the god that pertains to this earth--The first man.  That first man sent his own son to redeem the world..."(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 4:1)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that Brigham Young, who held the office of President of the Mormon church longer than any other man, taught that men must practice polygamy in order to become Gods.

"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy."  (Journal of Discourses 11:269)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the book of Mormon fails to contain any Mormon doctrine

Many portions of this Mormon Scripture even contradicts Mormon theology.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you about their secret temple ceremonies which, until April 1990, portrayed Christian ministers as hirelings of Satan.  Nor will they tell you about the sacred underwear they are wearing which, they believe, actually protects them.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that Mormon leaders have taught that Jesus was conceived by way of a sexual relationship between God and Mary.

"..how are children begotten?  I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father.  The difference between Jesus Christ and other men is this:  Our fathers in the flesh are mortal men, who are subject unto death: but the Father of Jesus Christ in the flesh is the god of Heaven" (Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pg. 125)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe the bible has been corrupted throughout the centuries and cannot be trusted fully by itself.

"I believe the Bible as it read when it came from the pen of the original writers.  Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph smith, pg.327)

"But the Bible has been robbed of its plainness; many sacred books having been lost, others rejected by the Romish Church, and what few we have left, were copied and recopied so many times, that it is admitted that almost every verse has been corrupted and mutilated to that degree that any two of them read alike." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, pg.213)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants, which they claim to be both sacred and without error, contradict each other many times.

For example, in the Book of Mormon, God called David and Solomon's act of polygamy an abomination, whereas in the Doctrine and Covenants He claims to justify it.  Jacob 2:24 in the Book of Mormon says, "Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord."  Section 132:1 in the Doctrine and Covenants, however, states: "Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines."

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they use Christian terms with Mormon meanings.

For example, a Mormon would probably agree with you that a person must be born again.  To the Mormon, however, "born again" is a process which begins with water baptism.  Another example are the words "salvation" and exaltation," which are synonymous in the Christian's mind.  However, general salvation to the Mormon merely means the resurrection which everyone in the world will receive at death.  Exaltation, or individual salvation, is the reward earned by the Mormon by following the laws of the Moron church.  "Eternal Life" to the Mormon means Godhood.  Regarding the word "scriptures," the Christian thinks of the Holy Bible while the Mormon could be thinking of not only the Bible but the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price as well.

 

They won't want to tell you that in order to gain entrance into the highest form of Mormon heaven, the Celestial kingdom, you must accept Joseph Smith, Jr. as a prophet of god.  Faith in Jesus alone, Mormonism teaches, will force you to spend eternity in a lower form of heaven.

 

Tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated in his book, doctrines of Salvation, that there is "No salvation without accepting Joseph Smith.  The word "salvation," used in this context, must really mean "exaltation" because former Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie stated in his book Mormon Doctrine that general salvation is given to everyone regardless of belief.  Personal salvation or exaltation to the highest form of Mormon heaven comes only by accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of god and by following the laws of the LDS church.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that their founder, Joseph Smith, Jr., made many false prophecies which, according to the Bible, would classify him as a false prophet rather than a true prophet of God.

 

For instance, in 1835 Smith claimed that the Lord would again come in just 56 years.  We would gather from this "prophecy" that Jesus Christ would again come to earth on or before 1891; no doubt Joseph Smith was incorrect (History of the church 2:182).  In 1832 Joseph Smith claimed he had a revelation concerning the building of a temple in Independence, Missouri.  According to section 84, verses 4 and 5, of the Doctrine and Covenants, he stated this "temple shall be reared in this generation.  For verily this generation shall not pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it..."  to this day the spot consecrated by Smith fails to be the sight of a great temple, but instead is covered with a well-kept lawn.  In fact, the Mormon church does not even own the land.

 

[greyfoxx39]

The apparent “concern” many here seem to have for mormons, pales in comparison to any “concern” they have demonstrated about a professionally trained “conversion force” going out and “not loving their neighbors”, because they apparently don’t “respect their neighbors” enough to leave them alone.

Excellent point! They trespass onto someone's property, disturb them at home to tell them that the faith of the homeowner is "false" and the only way to salvation is through mormonism. That's real "love" for ya, /sarc.

[T Minus Four]

Sherman eh? Well you and Peabody should get into the wayback machine and go check out those gold plates, and what REALLY happened during that so-called vision of the “personages” (aka “angel of light”).

[restornu]

Mosaih 2

36 And now, I say unto you, my brethren, that after ye have known and have been taught all these things, if ye should transgress and go contrary to that which has been spoken, that ye do withdraw yourselves from the Spirit of the Lord, that it may have no place in you to guide you in wisdom’s paths that ye may be blessed, prospered, and preserved—

37 I say unto you, that the man that doeth this, the same cometh out in open rebellion against God; therefore he listeth to obey the evil spirit, and becometh an enemy to all righteousness; therefore, the Lord has no place in him, for he dwelleth not in unholy temples.

38 Therefore if that man repenteth not, and remaineth and dieth an enemy to God, the demands of divine justice do awaken his immortal soul to a lively sense of his own guilt, which doth cause him to shrink from the presence of the Lord, and doth fill his breast with guilt, and pain, and anguish, which is like an unquenchable fire, whose flame ascendeth up forever and ever.

39 And now I say unto you, that mercy hath no claim on that man; therefore his final doom is to endure a never-ending torment.

40 O, all ye old men, and also ye young men, and you little children who can understand my words, for I have spoken plainly unto you that ye might understand, I pray that ye should awake to a remembrance of the awful situation of those that have fallen into transgression.

41 And moreover, I would desire that ye should consider on the blessed and happy state of those that keep the commandments of God. For behold, they are blessed in all things, both temporal and spiritual; and if they hold out faithful to the end they are received into heaven, that thereby they may dwell with God in a state of never-ending happiness. O remember, remember that these things are true; for the Lord God hath spoken it.

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Still love me Resty?

[greyfoxx39]

Posting verses from the Book of Joseph Smith to Christians is as persuasive as posting:

Selections from The Klingon Translation of the Book of Mormon

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1 Nephi 4

7 Nevertheless I went forth, and as I came near unto the house of Laban I beheld a man, and he had fallen to the earth before me, for he was drunken with wine.	7 'ach vIghoSpu', 'ej laban juH jIghoSDI' loD vIleghpu', 'ej HIqmo' chechmo' yavDaq pumpu'.
8 And when I came to him I found that it was Laban.	8 'ej ghaHDaq jIghoSpu'DI' laban ghaH 'e' vItu'.
9 And I beheld his sword, and I drew it forth from the sheath thereof; and the hilt thereof was of pure gold, and the workmanship thereof was exceedingly fine, and I saw that the blade thereof was of the most precious steel.	9 'ej yan vIlegh, 'ej vaHvo' vIlel; 'ej baS mIp ghaH ret'aq, 'ej yan vaQqu', baS let 'ej lo'laH ghaH 'etlh 'e' vIlegh.
10 And it came to pass that I was constrained by the Spirit that I should kill Laban; but I said in my heart: Never at any time have I shed the blood of man. And I shrunk and would that I might not slay him.	10 'ej laban vIHoH mura' qa''a'; 'ach tIQDaq �not 'Iw vIlIchbe'ta'� 'e' vIjatlhpu' 'ej jIHeD 'ej vIHoH 'e' vIneHbe'.
11 And the Spirit said unto me again: Behold the Lord hath delivered him into thy hands. Yea, and I also knew that he had sought to take away mine own life; yea, and he would not hearken unto the commandments of the Lord; and he also had taken away our property.	11 'ej lutlhlogh �yIlegh! ghopDu'lIjDaq HIjpu' joH'a'� mujatlh qa''a'. HIja', 'ej yInwIj nge' 'e' neH 'e' vISov je, 'ej joH'a' ra'mey lobQo'; 'ej Dachmeymaj nge'pu'.
12 And it came to pass that the Spirit said unto me again: Slay him, for the Lord hath delivered him into thy hands;	12 'ej lutlhlogh �yIHoH! ghopDu'lIjDaq HIjpu' joH'a'� mujatlh qa''a';

 

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15 Yea, and I also thought that they could not keep the commandments of the Lord according to the law of Moses, save they should have the law.	15 HIja', 'ej teq ghajbe'chugh joH'a' ra'mey (moSe' teq) luloblaHbe' 'e' vIHar.
16 And I also knew that the law was engraven upon the plates of brass.	16 'ej baS nagh beQDaq teq ghItlhlu'pu'.
17 And again, I knew that the Lord had delivered Laban into my hands for this cause�that I might obtain the records according to his commandments.	17 'ej mura'mo' paqmey vISuqveH ghopDu'wIjDaq laban HIjpu' joH'a'.
18 Therefore I did obey the voice of the Spirit, and took Laban by the hair of the head, and I smote off his head with his own sword.	18 vaj qa''a' ghogh vIlob, 'ej laban jIb vItlhap, 'ej nachDaj vIteqta', yanDaj vIlo'.
19 And after I had smitten off his head with his own sword, I took the garments of Laban and put them upon mine own body; yea, even every whit; and I did gird on his armor about my loins.	19 'ej nachDaj vIteqta'DI', laban Sut vItlhap 'ej Hoch vItuQmoH; 'ej porghwIjDaq may'luchDaj vItuQmoH.
20 And after I had done this, I went forth unto the treasury of Laban. And as I went forth towards the treasury of Laban, behold, I saw the servant of Laban who had the keys of the treasury. And I commanded him in the voice of Laban, that he should go with me into the treasury.	20 'ej 'e' ruchDI', laban Huch pa'Daq vIghoS. 'ej jIghoStaHvIS, Huch pa' KEY-mey ghajbogh laban toy'wI''e' vIleghpu' 'ej Huch pa'Daq yIghoS vIra', laban ghogh r

 

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38 And it came to pass that we took the plates of brass and the servant of Laban, and departed into the wilderness, and journeyed unto the tent of our father.

38 baS naghmey beQ laban toy'wI' je wItlhap 'e' qaSpu' 'ej DebDaq matlheD 'ej vavma' Hur pa' maleng.

 

 

The "hero" lops off the head of a drunk man and then heads for the treasury.

[Elsie]

I would suggest you stop twisting the Lord’s words as written in the scriptures...

Ha ha HA!

[greyfoxx39]

I haven't seen anyone say mormons weren't fine people. (with the exception of Harry Reid)

If Harry Reid defeats Sharon Angle, I will be very curious about the percentage of Nevada mormons who vote for him. The first presidency of the mormon church is quite cozy with him, and if the ("non-official of course") word filters down to the sheeple to vote for him, they will.

They voted in lock-step for Romney.

[Elsie]

I would suggest you stop twisting the Lord?s words as written in the scriptures...

 

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"Now the way he translated was he put the urim and thummim into his hat and Darkned his Eyes than he would take a sentance and it would apper in Brite Roman Letters. Then he would tell the writer and he would write it. Then that would go away the next sentance would Come and so on. But if it was not Spelt rite it would not go away till it was rite, so we see it was marvelous. Thus was the hol [whole] translated."

---Joseph Knight's journal.

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"In writing for your father I frequently wrote day after day, often sitting at the table close by him, he sitting with his face buried in his hat, with the stone in it, and dictating hour after hour with nothing between us."
(History of the RLDS Church, 8 vols.

(Independence, Missouri: Herald House,1951),

"Last Testimony of Sister Emma [Smith Bidamon]," 3:356.

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"I, as well as all of my father's family, Smith's wife, Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris, were present during the translation. . . . He [Joseph Smith] did not use the plates in translation."
---(David Whitmer,

as published in the "Kansas City Journal," June 5, 1881,

and reprinted in the RLDS "Journal of History", vol. 8, (1910), pp. 299-300.

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In an 1885 interview, Zenas H. Gurley, then the editor of the RLDS Saints Herald, asked Whitmer if Joseph had used his "Peep stone" to do the translation. Whitmer replied:

"... he used a stone called a "Seers stone," the "Interpreters" having been taken away from him because of transgression. The "Interpreters" were taken from Joseph after he allowed Martin Harris to carry away the 116 pages of Ms [manuscript] of the Book of Mormon as a punishment, but he was allowed to go on and translate by use of a "Seers stone" which he had, and which he placed in a hat into which he buried his face, stating to me and others that the original character appeared upon parchment and under it the translation in English."

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"Martin Harris related an incident that occurred during the time that he wrote that portion of the translation of the Book of Mormon which he was favored to write direct from the mouth of the Prophet Joseph Smith. He said that the Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he then used the seer stone, Martin explained the translation as follows: By aid of the seer stone, sentences would appear and were read by the Prophet and written by Martin and when finished he would say 'Written,' and if correctly written that sentence would disappear and another appear in its place, but if not written correctly it remained until corrected, so that the translation was just as it was engraven on the plates, precisely in the language then used."
(Edward Stevenson, "One of the Three Witnesses,"

reprinted from Deseret News, 30 Nov. 1881

in Millennial Star, 44 (6 Feb. 1882): 86-87.)

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In 1879, Michael Morse, Emma Smith's brother-in-law, stated:

 

 "When Joseph was translating the Book of Mormon [I] had occasion more than once to go into his immediate presence, and saw him engaged at his work of translation. The mode of procedure consisted in Joseph's placing the Seer Stone in the crown of a hat, then putting his face into the hat, so as to entirely cover his face, resting his elbows upon his knees, and then dictating word after word, while the scribes Emma, John Whitmer, O. Cowdery, or some other wrote it down."
(W.W. Blair interview with Michael Morse,

Saints Herald, vol. 26, no. 12

June 15, 1879,  pp. 190-91.)

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Joseph Smith's brother William also testified to the "face in the hat" version:

 

"The manner in which this was done was by looking into the Urim and Thummim, which was placed in a hat to exclude the light, (the plates lying near by covered up), and reading off the translation, which appeared in the stone by the power of God"

("A New Witness for Christ in America,"

Francis W. Kirkham, 2:417.)

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"The manner in which he pretended to read and interpret was the same manner as when he looked for the money-diggers, with the stone in his hat, while the book of plates were at the same time hid in the woods."

---Isaac Hale (Emma Smith's father's) affidavit, 1834.

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[Elsie]

I would suggest you stop twisting the Lord?s words as written in the scriptures...

 

Oh HELL yes!

 

Why TWIST when you can IGNORE!?

 

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 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

 

 

1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.

 

 

 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.

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BEHOLD!!!!  The Restorative Power  of the Book of Mormon!!

 

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THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI

CHAPTER 2

 

  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.

 

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TRUTH IGNORED

 

 

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Smith, Young, Taylor, Pratt, Snow, Kimbal,l Woodruff ...

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[T Minus Four]

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Those copyright laws are obviously not translated correctly! This should not be "allowed". It's not "necessary"!

[Elsie]

 

The apparent “concern” many here seem to have for mormons, pales in comparison to any “concern” they have demonstrated about a professionally trained “conversion force” going out and “not loving their neighbors”, because they apparently don’t “respect their neighbors” enough to leave them alone.

Trained?

 

Did SOMEONE say TRAINED??

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Professor Robert Millet        teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/  <-- Complete and uneditted

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Timeline...    Subject...

 

0:59            "Anti-Mormons..."

1:16            "ATTACK the faith you have..."

2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."

3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."

[Elsie]

You sound like sherman!

MORMONism 'sounds like' HERESY!

[T Minus Four]

I would suggest you stop twisting the Lord’s words as written in the scriptures and persecuting the Lord, Jesus Christ

Here is everything that Jesus said while on this earth as recorded in the gospels in the Christian Bible, Resty.

I invite you to point out any twisting.

THE WORDS.COM

[Elsie]

 

And after I had smitten off his head with his own sword, I took the garments of Laban and put them upon mine own body; yea, even every whit; and I did gird on his armor about my loins.

 

Just WHO is smitten with lions?

 

 

2 Nephi 3:12 Wherefore, the fruit of thy loins write; and the fruit of thy loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins of Judah, shall grow together,

2 Nephi 3:18 And the Lord said unto me also: I will raise up unto the fruit of thy loins; and I will make for him a spokesman. And I, behold, I will give unto him that he shall write the writing of the fruit of thy loins, unto the fruit of thy loins; and the spokesman of thy loins shall declare it.

Joseph Smith Translation Gen. 50: 27   Thus saith the Lord God of my fathers unto me, A choice seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins, and he shall be esteemed highly among the fruit of thy loins; and unto him will I give commandment that he shall do a work for the fruit of thy loins, his brethren.

Joseph Smith Translation Gen. 50: 31    Wherefore the fruit of thy loins shall write, and the fruit of thy loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins of Judah, shall grow together

Diaboli virtus in lumbas est.          Diaboli virtus in lumbas est.

 

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Mighty

Good

MORMONs!

[restornu]

Here is everything that Jesus said while on this earth as recorded in the gospels in the Christian Bible, Resty.

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It is NOT everything even the Bible make note of that

John 21

25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

[restornu]

What were you afraid of that you left out verse 13&14 Like I have said before you distort the truth!

10 And it came to pass that I was constrained by the Spirit that I should kill Laban; but I said in my heart: Never at any time have I shed the blood of man. And I shrunk and would that I might not slay him.

11 And the Spirit said unto me again: Behold the Lord hath delivered him into thy hands. Yea, and I also knew that he had sought to take away mine own life; yea, and he would not hearken unto the commandments of the Lord; and he also had taken away our property.

12 And it came to pass that the Spirit said unto me again: Slay him, for the Lord hath delivered him into thy hands;

13 Behold the Lord slayeth the wicked to bring forth his righteous purposes. It is better that one man should perish than that a nation should dwindle and perish in unbelief.

14 And now, when I, Nephi, had heard these words, I remembered the words of the Lord which he spake unto me in the wilderness, saying that: Inasmuch as thy seed shall keep my commandments, they shall prosper in the land of promise.

15 Yea, and I also thought that they could not keep the commandments of the Lord according to the law of Moses, save they should have the law.

16 And I also knew that the law was engraven upon the plates of brass.

This reveals you know when you omit!

[greyfoxx39]

ROTFL....your straw man argument is hilarious. Standing by the fairy tale fiction of Joseph Smith's Fictional Fairy Tale as if it really is believable to anyone but a brainwashed mormon is a great way to convince folks of one's discernment!

"What were you afraid of that you left out verse 13&14 Like I have said before you distort the truth!

TRUTH? What a joke!

[reaganaut]

kinda hard to miss.

[Osage Orange]

We believe that shortly after the establishment of the original Church, truths were lost, practices were changed and the authority that Jesus had given the apostles were lost.

Don't you find it odd...that God would just let that happen...and then wait 100's of years before He supposedly came to Joseph Smith?

And while on the subject...what happened to "It is finished!!" You know...Normandy, my God doesn't make mistakes. And His covenants are unbreakable.

Of course not all truth was lost and in the Bible vital information was preserved. However we believe that error has been incorporated into Christian beliefs also.

But doesn't that seem extremely convenient for any "supposed" Prophet to just invent what they want to invent? You know like...."Indians and Blacks are nearly sub-human..and not to be mixed with"...or "Men need to have multiple wive's in order to get into heaven"...

When I say “this Jesus Christ” I mean the very same Jesus who we learn about in the New Testament directed Joseph Smith to restore the fullness of his gospel to the earth — and that he continues to guide and direct his work through prophets and apostles to this day.

It always amazes me....that mormon's totally remember to capitalize J. Smith...but forget He and His....when referring to Jesus Christ...the Son of God.

I see that over and over.........Crazy, eh?

BTW, I knew a guy named Normandy once...is your name actually Normandy?

[reaganaut]

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