Posted on 10/15/2010 5:39:02 PM PDT by delacoert
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Most of us have had a Mormon Missionary knock at our door. If you have ever invited them in and listened to a presentation of their beliefs, you probably found most but not all of what they said very similar to those beliefs held by Christians. However, while trying to convince you that your Church is wrong and the Mormon Church is right, there are several points they intentionally leave out. Below is a list of Mormon beliefs the missionaries will be reluctant to tell you about: |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that the God they worship was not always God. |
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"We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe Jesus Christ is the spirit brother of Satan: |
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"The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God. He was called Lucifer, son of the morning. Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind." (Milton R. Hunter, Gospel Through the Ages, pg.15) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that, according to Mormonism, Jesus Christ was a polygamist. |
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"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children." (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses 2:210) |
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The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age. A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers. We might almost think they were 'Mormons'" (Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, 1:346) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that for at least half a century church leaders were teaching that Adam was really God and the only God with whom we have to do. |
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"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken--He is our Father, and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do." (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:50) |
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"I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people and he is the god that pertains to this earth--The first man. That first man sent his own son to redeem the world..."(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 4:1) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that Brigham Young, who held the office of President of the Mormon church longer than any other man, taught that men must practice polygamy in order to become Gods. |
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"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy." (Journal of Discourses 11:269) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that the book of Mormon fails to contain any Mormon doctrine |
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Many portions of this Mormon Scripture even contradicts Mormon theology. |
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They will be reluctant to tell you about their secret temple ceremonies which, until April 1990, portrayed Christian ministers as hirelings of Satan. Nor will they tell you about the sacred underwear they are wearing which, they believe, actually protects them. |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that Mormon leaders have taught that Jesus was conceived by way of a sexual relationship between God and Mary. |
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"..how are children begotten? I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father. The difference between Jesus Christ and other men is this: Our fathers in the flesh are mortal men, who are subject unto death: but the Father of Jesus Christ in the flesh is the god of Heaven" (Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pg. 125) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe the bible has been corrupted throughout the centuries and cannot be trusted fully by itself. |
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"I believe the Bible as it read when it came from the pen of the original writers. Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph smith, pg.327) |
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"But the Bible has been robbed of its plainness; many sacred books having been lost, others rejected by the Romish Church, and what few we have left, were copied and recopied so many times, that it is admitted that almost every verse has been corrupted and mutilated to that degree that any two of them read alike." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, pg.213) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants, which they claim to be both sacred and without error, contradict each other many times. |
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For example, in the Book of Mormon, God called David and Solomon's act of polygamy an abomination, whereas in the Doctrine and Covenants He claims to justify it. Jacob 2:24 in the Book of Mormon says, "Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord." Section 132:1 in the Doctrine and Covenants, however, states: "Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines." |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that they use Christian terms with Mormon meanings. |
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For example, a Mormon would probably agree with you that a person must be born again. To the Mormon, however, "born again" is a process which begins with water baptism. Another example are the words "salvation" and exaltation," which are synonymous in the Christian's mind. However, general salvation to the Mormon merely means the resurrection which everyone in the world will receive at death. Exaltation, or individual salvation, is the reward earned by the Mormon by following the laws of the Moron church. "Eternal Life" to the Mormon means Godhood. Regarding the word "scriptures," the Christian thinks of the Holy Bible while the Mormon could be thinking of not only the Bible but the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price as well. |
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They won't want to tell you that in order to gain entrance into the highest form of Mormon heaven, the Celestial kingdom, you must accept Joseph Smith, Jr. as a prophet of god. Faith in Jesus alone, Mormonism teaches, will force you to spend eternity in a lower form of heaven. |
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Tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated in his book, doctrines of Salvation, that there is "No salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. The word "salvation," used in this context, must really mean "exaltation" because former Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie stated in his book Mormon Doctrine that general salvation is given to everyone regardless of belief. Personal salvation or exaltation to the highest form of Mormon heaven comes only by accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of god and by following the laws of the LDS church. |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that their founder, Joseph Smith, Jr., made many false prophecies which, according to the Bible, would classify him as a false prophet rather than a true prophet of God. |
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For instance, in 1835 Smith claimed that the Lord would again come in just 56 years. We would gather from this "prophecy" that Jesus Christ would again come to earth on or before 1891; no doubt Joseph Smith was incorrect (History of the church 2:182). In 1832 Joseph Smith claimed he had a revelation concerning the building of a temple in Independence, Missouri. According to section 84, verses 4 and 5, of the Doctrine and Covenants, he stated this "temple shall be reared in this generation. For verily this generation shall not pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it..." to this day the spot consecrated by Smith fails to be the sight of a great temple, but instead is covered with a well-kept lawn. In fact, the Mormon church does not even own the land. |
Yes; and that's PD will show up with his HAYSTACK method of answering questions.
Damn it!
I'm not doing the work FOR you; dig out the needle for yourself!
Didn’t say they did, did I? So, you’re answer is a non sequitur, moron.
Black Vail, I, too, will say that I’ve never personally known a liberal Mormon except my coke drinking in-laws. Most Mormons are hard working people who don’t believe in the government hand outs. In fact, the ones I’ve known live more “Christ like” that many Christians I’ve known.
Elsie,
Companies that “call” themselves “Chritian” most likely display the fish. But the fish symbals are made by many companies and they don’t have to be “members” of a particular sect.
I worked for a Chrstian man once who said he told every employee that if some salesman came through the door with a “fish” on the back of his business card they’d better watch out. My saying is “Jesus did not wear a T-shirt with a big number “l” on the front.”
And none of this has anything to do with the fact that all Mormons MUST buy the garments through the church and they have to have been made by a Mormon company. Jews and Christians practice free enterprise.
As an ex-mormon, I will affirm that Mormonism is the indeed the wrong path of works and self-aggrandizement ....and I pray that God might bring individual Mormons to the truth of Himself. May his grace abound!
That is true..
Grape juice or fermented grape juice...its the same..
Where is the injunction against drinking wine or other alcoholic beverages, on any occasion, not just the Lord's Supper - with the exception of the Nazarenes.
If you don’t care about other people going to hell, then I pity you.
No doubt the LDS put forth an image (not nearly as accurate as most would think) as clean living and hard working, but that won’t get you to Heaven.
And, having been there, garments are NOT a reminder to ‘keep chaste’, they are a reminder of BLOOD OATHS taken in the Temple.
I have ‘checked out’ the LDS church ‘first hand’ for many years.
Most of what we post are quotes and articles directly from LDS leaders.
Also,the LDS have a bad habit of not telling potential converts the WHOLE story.
Check out LDS.org, but also check out the other side...
www.exmormon.org
www.irr.org/MIT
www.utlm.org
The LDS believe the Bible is corrupted and missing many ‘plain and precious things’. Most LDS place the BoM OVER the Bible for this reason and why Smith felt a need to come up with his own translation (which the LDS pick and choose from).
Care to give me a few of the verses that are not ‘translated correctly’?
Which Christ?
The LDS do not believe in the Christ of the Bible.
Care to point out some ‘misinformation’ so we can address it rather than make a blanket statement?
That they believe in a different Christ??? I apparently know much more about Mormonism than you do.
The LDS christ is a created being, who had to earn his Godhood, wasn’t always God and the Spirit brother of all of us including Lucifer. Your leaders have also taught that God had sex with Mary to conceive Jesus.
The Christ of the Bible is begotten not made, eternally God, didn’t have to come get a body to fulfill his ‘second estate’ and is NOT the product of sexual relations.
Want me to provide quotes of these teachings?? I can and will.
The LDS view of the ‘godhead’ does more than break with Post NT Christian History, it breaks with the Bible.
Mormons are henotheists.
They won't tell you that a guy is selling on EBay the sacred "Silver Plates"...which are a first draft of the missing Golden Plates.
Thank you E, and you are correct in that Mormonism’s own works are their own worst enemy.
To me it makes no difference what religion the person.. I judge by the character..
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Well, you are not God. God judges people on beliefs (faith in Christ). Character won’t get you to God.
It’s a fun word. :)
LOL. Good, i need to keep fuel in my jets. :)
Speaking of garments, I came across a reference to an early endowment ceremony where they the garment markings while the person was wearing them DEEP ENOUGH TO PENETRATE THE FLESH. IOW, early Mormon endowments had blood letting.
Working right now to get a copy of the journal so I can scan it to post pictures of the text.
Speaking of garments, I came across a reference to an early endowment ceremony where they CUT the garment markings while the person was wearing them DEEP ENOUGH TO PENETRATE THE FLESH. IOW, early Mormon endowments had blood letting.
Working right now to get a copy of the journal so I can scan it to post pictures of the text.
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