[1010RD]

What makes you think Jesus is also addressing me or you and not just the Pharisees?

How can God condemn a people he’d trained over generations, even from the first moment out of the Garden, to follow the laws?

God gave the Israelites 613 laws. Why?

[MHGinTN]

It is apparent that you do not believe Paul's answer to your question. You have no doubt read the letter to the Romans. You can read it again. You have likely read Paul's letter to Timothy and the tretise to the Hebrews.

It is also written that all of scripture is given for our instruction and inspiration. Do you even entertain the notion that you could keep all the law or that any Jew could do so, given Paul's clear teaching that the law was given as a school master?

Jesus was speaking to you also when He addressed the Pharisees. In fact, you recall that comment He made about 'other sheep'? That referred to you and me, dude/dudette. To the Jew of Jesus's day, any who were not of the Jews were 'the other', sometimes referred to as 'the Greeks' but inclusive of all men who were not a Jew, in all time.

You've embarked upon a strategy of only questioning anything I offer, so perhaps we are no longer discussing. I will not be drawn into a game of you playing twenty questions in order to stealthily promote mormonism apologetics. That is a fools errand because I am not as smart as the demons who will feed to you the alleys down which you will want me to dart. Have a pleasant weekend ... and don't pull mormonesque apologetics interruptus.

[MHGinTN]

"God gave the Israelites 613 laws. Why?" _1010rd

No, God is not lacking in precision. He gave the Hebrews 10. Hebrews gave the Jews the other 603. And with that I bid you adieu

[Elsie]

How can God condemn a people he’d trained over generations, even from the first moment out of the Garden, to follow the laws?

You're asking US???

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John Chapter 3

 

 ¹⁶ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. ¹⁷ For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. ¹⁸ Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. ¹⁹ This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. ²⁰ Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. ²¹ But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."