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To: 1010RD
It is apparent that you do not believe Paul's answer to your question. You have no doubt read the letter to the Romans. You can read it again. You have likely read Paul's letter to Timothy and the tretise to the Hebrews.

It is also written that all of scripture is given for our instruction and inspiration. Do you even entertain the notion that you could keep all the law or that any Jew could do so, given Paul's clear teaching that the law was given as a school master?

Jesus was speaking to you also when He addressed the Pharisees. In fact, you recall that comment He made about 'other sheep'? That referred to you and me, dude/dudette. To the Jew of Jesus's day, any who were not of the Jews were 'the other', sometimes referred to as 'the Greeks' but inclusive of all men who were not a Jew, in all time.

You've embarked upon a strategy of only questioning anything I offer, so perhaps we are no longer discussing. I will not be drawn into a game of you playing twenty questions in order to stealthily promote mormonism apologetics. That is a fools errand because I am not as smart as the demons who will feed to you the alleys down which you will want me to dart. Have a pleasant weekend ... and don't pull mormonesque apologetics interruptus.

638 posted on 10/03/2010 10:29:27 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

You’re too nervy. You can ask me questions, but didn’t.

I’ll comment now on what you’ve written. Firstly, I agree with you that all scripture is given for our instruction, but in what specifically?

Many Christians get Paul’s words wrong. He isn’t arguing against “law” per se, but the hypocritical abuse or misuse of it. Take a second look at Paul. Christ expects us to observe laws, to make sacrifices and to start with baptism as an ordinance. Of course it all starts with Jesus.

Go to the Greek translation of Paul’s attacks on legalism. There isn’t a word for legalism, not the modern epithet for it, in Greek. Paul chooses his Greek carefully and wisely. Read up on that.

Paul is really arguing that:

1. Salvation comes of Christ and by none other. Faith in him leads the way.

2. Nothing we can do will save ourselves. This is subtle.

3. We do have something to do. What is it?

4. Obedience is a requirement of Salvation. Obedience to what?

Is there an apparent conflict in the above?

Paul cannot argue against his master who said, “If you love me, obey my commandments.” New Living Translation (©2007)John 14:15

It cannot be both.


647 posted on 10/03/2010 11:09:47 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: MHGinTN

Did you actually type demons? LOL.

You cannot accuse me of any evil, other than disagreeing with what you believe.

I serve and love my master, Jesus Christ.


648 posted on 10/03/2010 11:15:05 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: MHGinTN
To the Jew of Jesus's day, any who were not of the Jews were 'the other', sometimes referred to as 'the Greeks' but inclusive of all men who were not a Jew, in all time.

To the MORMON of OUR day, any who are not of the SLC branch of MORMONism are 'the other', sometimes referred to as 'GENTILES' but inclusive of all men who were not a MORMON, in all time.

682 posted on 10/03/2010 6:54:11 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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