Posted on 08/31/2010 6:42:35 PM PDT by Gamecock
I really like Glenn Beck. Though I have never met him in person, I have often watched his television programs and thought it would be so nice to have that kind of a guy as a friend. I imagine that he is far too busy and way too inaccessible for that to become a reality, but I do genuinely like the man. He is insightful, articulate, funny, and seems to want some great things for his family and our nation. I do think that sometimes he has one or two conspiracy theories that may not be fully justified - we shall see - but all in all, Glenn seems to be a really nice guy.
I share many of the same goals as Glenn. I speak as one born in England but now very much a U.S. citizen. All my children were born here in these United States and I live and pray for America to become in all reality, "one nation under God." I love America. I sincerely believe Glenn does too.
But I do have a problem - not a problem with him as a person in any way at all, but when he asks me to join him in praying for the very same things I wish for my country, I just cannot. I can pray for these things privately, and with fellow Christians, of course, and I do. I just cannot stand with Glenn in a public setting and be comfortable while I know he is praying to a false god. How could I ever say "Amen" at the end of his prayer that people would turn back to the god he serves? I just cannot do it. That is because Glenn Beck is a Mormon. The "god" he prays to is not in any way the same God as mine.
I know.. I know.. even saying this is politically and religiously incorrect, but I cannot help but say it. When Glenn Beck speaks of "god" we need to remember that he uses a different dictionary to Christians. The God of the Bible is One in essence and eternally exists in three co-equal Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Mormons reject this completely, believing that there are many worlds controlled by different gods and the god of this planet was once a man. The Jesus of Mormonism is the begotten offspring of this exalted man in sexual union with one of his many wives, and this god lives on a planet circling a star named Kolob, and his "gospel" is the message of how you, too, can be exalted to godhood. Christianity is Monotheistic. Mormonism is the most polytheistic religion in the world. Doctrine matters folks and deceived people, deceive people!
A dear fellow Christian, in coming to understand where I am on this issue wrote to me today saying, "I like Glenn Beck and appreciate his effort to bring America back to her godly roots. He is doing a great job in uniting government, church, and media. He does speak from a Mormon perspective but still has a heart of seeing America return to God even though he might not have the same theological view as we do."
I responded by saying, " I understand you - but I cannot agree that Mormonism is in any way "godly." According to the Bible, there is nothing at all godly about false religion. Godliness is not just about acts of service, honor, integrity, courage and the like, as wonderful as these things are, but it also includes worship of the One true God and the avoidance of all forms of idolatry. Mormonism is idolatrous worship and when Glenn Beck prays, despite his intentions, he prays to a false god who cannot help either Mr. Beck or America."
I can remember reading about the worshippers of the golden calf. They had high family values and were absolutely sincere in their worship. Now I may not be the sharpest tool in the drawer, but I do tend to get the distinct impression that God didn't like the worship - yeah, the ground opening up and swallowing the worshippers.. hmmm... it does lead me to believe that God was somehow ticked, wouldn't you say?
And then I wonder what God would feel about a "prophet" in the Old Testament asking Baal to bring Israel back to its godly roots. I think in such times, he would be stoned. In Deuteronomy 18:20 God says to His people, "But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die."
God often tested His people by seeing if they would be true to Him even as false prophets tried to lure them away from Himself. God says, "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst" (Deuteronomy 13:1-5).
Thank God for grace!!! (we don't stone false prophets now) but I believe God's feelings about false worship have not changed. As Glenn Beck calls this nation to pray for some very valuable, important and even vital things, I ask now, is God testing us in the same way today? Perhaps God has raised Glenn Beck up for this very purpose, to test our hearts. Just a thought!
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord, the one and only God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the eternal One, Yahweh, the great I AM, the Alpha and Omega, who is from everlasting to everlasting.
So, though I really like you Glenn, thanks for the invite, but I cannot join you.
Unless of course you were born into Mormonism, spent your life there and are more fluent in the language and culture of Mormonism than Americanism. If you left to eventually find Christ in Christianity - then don't bother speaking - we won't listen to you, you sinning anti! :D
Gosh, a Mormon joining the childish insult, that isn’t really surprising is it?
The Priest was a leader in the Catholic church, he knew the church's teachings on Mormonism.
I got news, you aren't him, nor even male.
Your pronouncement of our fitness as a group is patently false since Christianity is a thing of the heart (something only God truly knows), so by declaring all Mormonism to be non christian, you are saying that not one of millions of Mormons is right with God, statistically, that's just never going to be true. Your statement is just as false as saying all (place any religion here) are Christians and going to heaven!
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone... Good advice for any who professes Christianity to follow.
God bless and teach you his ways.
Delph
I got news, you aren’t him, nor even male.
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You still threatened by women ???
What is it ???
You just a little short pimply teenager ???
Or just a little short pimply teenager with a whole basement to yourself and a 9 oclock curfue???
That's OK...Glenn will make it all better...he will retrieve the golden plates, use his microphone at Fox to spread the word of the "restored" gobblydegook...Glenn will pour his truth into the ears of the unbelievers and boost the earnings of the Corporation to new heights, and lastly, HE will smite down all the apostates while certain fans high five with glee.
All things are possible with Glenn if you follow the conversation on FR.
My legs go weak with fear....
,-)
ROFLMBO
No wonder Joey Smith was scared poopy...
:)
LOL
Coming to a temple near you
you are saying that not one of millions of Mormons is right with God, statistically, that’s just never going to be true.
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Thats not what God says...
Let God be true and EVERY man a liar...Romans 3:4
(You will notice that God did not say that women were liars
But then no woman will ever attain mormon godhood)
Notice how the poster posed that, as if to say ‘you mean there are nop Momrons who are Christians?’ instead of asking ‘you mean Mormonism will not make Christians out of the lost’? DU is very skilled at violating the many rules of debate, and his favorite tactic is to fabrciate fallacious sentence using the undistributed middle to deceive readers. His red herring business appears to still be flourishing, also. Not so much for his strawmen, however. And yes, he is afraid of women who are assertive on the Truth. ... Want some popcorn, Nana?
Yes please...
Have some Coke...
:)
Mmmm ... I’ll have Pepsi Max (zero calories). Just discovered it yesterday. Better than Coke Zero. Better name, too.
Here ya go...
:)
I believe we have hit a bump in the road that our conversation will not be able to surpass, as we have fallen into repetitive arguments and points. Again, you ask my belief on the disposition of souls, and again I must answer that my belief in regard to that is irrelevant to the point. I confess that I also believe that your curiosity on this matter is to fathom whether I am Christian enough for your definition. Rest assured, I am not…and would argue neither are you. That’s okay, our Savior died for my sins as well as yours.
I disagree that Glenn Beck’s purpose was to mainstream Mormonism. His call for me to be a better Catholic and you to be a better Bible Christian, or Evangelical, or whatever designation you prefer, seems to be antithetical to that end. The claim that Beck has become the biggest religious leader in the world is unsubstantiated. He has not become mine. Has he become yours? I bet not. Is it possible that he has become someone’s spiritual leader? Possibly.
In the meantime, in case you haven’t noticed, the devil is having a heyday a setting up atheism, hedonism and secular humanism as the default religions of this country and this world. The fact that we quibble about whether Mormons are worthy enough allies to join us in the fight against the devil is surely making him giggle with glee. I will continue to pray for my country, beg God forgiveness, and will welcome anyone that wants to join me in the fight for good.
His call for me to be a better Catholic
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Juana did beck use the word Catholic ???
I never heard him say “be a better Catholic “
He used the word god as a generic term...
it could have been any god...
a tree hugger god or allah...
For himself beck meant his mormon god...
But in his AA meetings, Beck was taught to call on a “higher power”
Joan the Mad ???
The queen locked away for decades ???
The devil is working through Mormonism and I was trying to ascertain if you thought that preventing Christians from being tricked into, and seduced into, joining a non-Christian cult was a serious enough matter to justify taking a look into how Glenn Beck, Mormon proselytizer, has graduated from political radio host into a leader of conservative Christians in discussions of God and America, and our Christian heritage and a new Christian revival.
Do you seriously believe that Beck’s ultimate goal is to leave out Mormonism, and keep it separate from this Christian crusade?
Who claimed that?
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