Posted on 08/31/2010 6:42:35 PM PDT by Gamecock
I really like Glenn Beck. Though I have never met him in person, I have often watched his television programs and thought it would be so nice to have that kind of a guy as a friend. I imagine that he is far too busy and way too inaccessible for that to become a reality, but I do genuinely like the man. He is insightful, articulate, funny, and seems to want some great things for his family and our nation. I do think that sometimes he has one or two conspiracy theories that may not be fully justified - we shall see - but all in all, Glenn seems to be a really nice guy.
I share many of the same goals as Glenn. I speak as one born in England but now very much a U.S. citizen. All my children were born here in these United States and I live and pray for America to become in all reality, "one nation under God." I love America. I sincerely believe Glenn does too.
But I do have a problem - not a problem with him as a person in any way at all, but when he asks me to join him in praying for the very same things I wish for my country, I just cannot. I can pray for these things privately, and with fellow Christians, of course, and I do. I just cannot stand with Glenn in a public setting and be comfortable while I know he is praying to a false god. How could I ever say "Amen" at the end of his prayer that people would turn back to the god he serves? I just cannot do it. That is because Glenn Beck is a Mormon. The "god" he prays to is not in any way the same God as mine.
I know.. I know.. even saying this is politically and religiously incorrect, but I cannot help but say it. When Glenn Beck speaks of "god" we need to remember that he uses a different dictionary to Christians. The God of the Bible is One in essence and eternally exists in three co-equal Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Mormons reject this completely, believing that there are many worlds controlled by different gods and the god of this planet was once a man. The Jesus of Mormonism is the begotten offspring of this exalted man in sexual union with one of his many wives, and this god lives on a planet circling a star named Kolob, and his "gospel" is the message of how you, too, can be exalted to godhood. Christianity is Monotheistic. Mormonism is the most polytheistic religion in the world. Doctrine matters folks and deceived people, deceive people!
A dear fellow Christian, in coming to understand where I am on this issue wrote to me today saying, "I like Glenn Beck and appreciate his effort to bring America back to her godly roots. He is doing a great job in uniting government, church, and media. He does speak from a Mormon perspective but still has a heart of seeing America return to God even though he might not have the same theological view as we do."
I responded by saying, " I understand you - but I cannot agree that Mormonism is in any way "godly." According to the Bible, there is nothing at all godly about false religion. Godliness is not just about acts of service, honor, integrity, courage and the like, as wonderful as these things are, but it also includes worship of the One true God and the avoidance of all forms of idolatry. Mormonism is idolatrous worship and when Glenn Beck prays, despite his intentions, he prays to a false god who cannot help either Mr. Beck or America."
I can remember reading about the worshippers of the golden calf. They had high family values and were absolutely sincere in their worship. Now I may not be the sharpest tool in the drawer, but I do tend to get the distinct impression that God didn't like the worship - yeah, the ground opening up and swallowing the worshippers.. hmmm... it does lead me to believe that God was somehow ticked, wouldn't you say?
And then I wonder what God would feel about a "prophet" in the Old Testament asking Baal to bring Israel back to its godly roots. I think in such times, he would be stoned. In Deuteronomy 18:20 God says to His people, "But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die."
God often tested His people by seeing if they would be true to Him even as false prophets tried to lure them away from Himself. God says, "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst" (Deuteronomy 13:1-5).
Thank God for grace!!! (we don't stone false prophets now) but I believe God's feelings about false worship have not changed. As Glenn Beck calls this nation to pray for some very valuable, important and even vital things, I ask now, is God testing us in the same way today? Perhaps God has raised Glenn Beck up for this very purpose, to test our hearts. Just a thought!
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord, the one and only God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the eternal One, Yahweh, the great I AM, the Alpha and Omega, who is from everlasting to everlasting.
So, though I really like you Glenn, thanks for the invite, but I cannot join you.
If it worked, then why is the USA going to hell in a handbasket?
No, it is you missing the point and the point of the article, this is about Beck leading masses of people to believe that he is a Christin, that is leading them in Christian prayer, Christian teachings, and Christian history.
It is important that Christians know what religion he is, they know the Rabbi is Jewish and prays to the same God, that isn’t the case with Beck.
It is an interesting question. Thank you for your comment.
To everyone: I'm sure Mormons are fine and wonderful people, I know some ex-Mormons and when I asked about Kolob they looked at me like I was speaking in tongues... which is goofy because they now speak in tongues. So it's entirely possible that Glenn Beck doesn't actually know that the Mormon version of God is a created being who lives on a planet orbiting the star Kolob whose sons are Jesus and Lucifer (L Ron Hubbard eat your heart out).
I think a legitimate objection to what's going on is that some people see Mr. Beck's championing of Christianity as deceptive, I tend to agree but I'm inclined to believe that it's not intentional.
More than anything though, this entire situation is starting to look like a recasting of the role of Howard Beale. I don't doubt that Glenn Beck is sincere, and that puts him head and shoulders over the current occupant of the White House... not that he's a Christian by any classical definition either.
How do you know he’s not like our great president now who managed 20 years under a minister and don’t remember nothing he said. Doesn’t believe anything he taught.
Why would Beck do that. If you found the living God, wouldn't you sell everything you had - give up all for the Pearl of Great Price? Why would you stay within a religion you didn't agree with?
“I would like you to post the links that Beck claims what he believes. From his own mouth.
How do you know he’s not like our great president now who managed 20 years under a minister and don’t remember nothing he said. Doesn’t believe anything he taught.”
http://www.amazon.com/Unlikely-Mormon-Conversion-Story-Glenn/dp/B001EVKWLQ
Girrrrrlllll isn’t there only one Jesus that died on the cross? Keep talking it’s gonna make sense at some point. Only in America can Jesus dying on the cross mean so many things.
I’ve had the same thing happen to me with Baptist Christians, but we must remember that only a fraction of Baptist Christians think this way about the Church. In my opinion the vast majority don’t and recognize Catholics as fellow Christians, no matter how grave the errors they think Catholics have with the faith.
It’s interesting to me that you don’t see any LDS posting garbage about Catholics on FR, but some other types of Christians seem to really get into it. LDS might actually believe such garbage, but they sure don’t seem to post the garbage to FR like some Christians do.
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Well, Pastor.... it turns out that God’s a lot bigger than you are. He can take care of Himself. Let God decide if Glenn Beck’s prayers are good enough for Him. And as for you ... get off your high horse.
Now that I have heard of him, I get the impression of a narrow man who is well worth a miss....
So now you want him poor and wretched with his hand out in a beggarly state.
The same reason that some people stick out a marriage. The same reason people can get up every Sunday for years going to a dead church.
Why do you hate Beck so? Pray that he sees the only true and living God you see. If you care so much about the people that admire his courage.
Is Glen Beck a Mormon or not? He says he is. He says he believes in Mormonism.
How do you know he’s not like our great president now who managed 20 years under a minister and don’t remember nothing he said. Doesn’t believe anything he taught.
So now you are saying that Glen Beck is like Obama?
Please keep in mind, I didn't say Glen Beck was a Mormon who believed in Mormonism, BECK said that.
I assume that you mean the Christian leaders.
I was Mormon. When I found the Holy, Almighty God of the Bible, I left Mormonism.
There is no way you can serve two masters. If Glen was Christian - he would serve Christ and not Mormonism.
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
Beck believes that his god is the brother of Lucifer. So God has already spoken as to the veracity of Beck's prayers and "worship."
John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Catholicism supplies the Mormon cult with the largest number of converts, Mormons love Catholics as a supplier of souls, Glenn Beck himself used to be Catholic, but even here on FR threads you will see that many Mormons despise Evangelical Christians.
All I had to do was mention our president and I get a link. I wont be buying his book. I could use that $17 to give to the Special Operations Warrior Fund.
I don’t believe my post was meant for you. Frankly I think you are a crazy lady.
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