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I am sorry Glenn but I cannot join you
Reformation Theology ^ | Pastor John Samson

Posted on 08/31/2010 6:42:35 PM PDT by Gamecock

I really like Glenn Beck. Though I have never met him in person, I have often watched his television programs and thought it would be so nice to have that kind of a guy as a friend. I imagine that he is far too busy and way too inaccessible for that to become a reality, but I do genuinely like the man. He is insightful, articulate, funny, and seems to want some great things for his family and our nation. I do think that sometimes he has one or two conspiracy theories that may not be fully justified - we shall see - but all in all, Glenn seems to be a really nice guy.

I share many of the same goals as Glenn. I speak as one born in England but now very much a U.S. citizen. All my children were born here in these United States and I live and pray for America to become in all reality, "one nation under God." I love America. I sincerely believe Glenn does too.

But I do have a problem - not a problem with him as a person in any way at all, but when he asks me to join him in praying for the very same things I wish for my country, I just cannot. I can pray for these things privately, and with fellow Christians, of course, and I do. I just cannot stand with Glenn in a public setting and be comfortable while I know he is praying to a false god. How could I ever say "Amen" at the end of his prayer that people would turn back to the god he serves? I just cannot do it. That is because Glenn Beck is a Mormon. The "god" he prays to is not in any way the same God as mine.

I know.. I know.. even saying this is politically and religiously incorrect, but I cannot help but say it. When Glenn Beck speaks of "god" we need to remember that he uses a different dictionary to Christians. The God of the Bible is One in essence and eternally exists in three co-equal Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Mormons reject this completely, believing that there are many worlds controlled by different gods and the god of this planet was once a man. The Jesus of Mormonism is the begotten offspring of this exalted man in sexual union with one of his many wives, and this god lives on a planet circling a star named Kolob, and his "gospel" is the message of how you, too, can be exalted to godhood. Christianity is Monotheistic. Mormonism is the most polytheistic religion in the world. Doctrine matters folks and deceived people, deceive people!

A dear fellow Christian, in coming to understand where I am on this issue wrote to me today saying, "I like Glenn Beck and appreciate his effort to bring America back to her godly roots. He is doing a great job in uniting government, church, and media. He does speak from a Mormon perspective but still has a heart of seeing America return to God even though he might not have the same theological view as we do."

I responded by saying, " I understand you - but I cannot agree that Mormonism is in any way "godly." According to the Bible, there is nothing at all godly about false religion. Godliness is not just about acts of service, honor, integrity, courage and the like, as wonderful as these things are, but it also includes worship of the One true God and the avoidance of all forms of idolatry. Mormonism is idolatrous worship and when Glenn Beck prays, despite his intentions, he prays to a false god who cannot help either Mr. Beck or America."

I can remember reading about the worshippers of the golden calf. They had high family values and were absolutely sincere in their worship. Now I may not be the sharpest tool in the drawer, but I do tend to get the distinct impression that God didn't like the worship - yeah, the ground opening up and swallowing the worshippers.. hmmm... it does lead me to believe that God was somehow ticked, wouldn't you say?

And then I wonder what God would feel about a "prophet" in the Old Testament asking Baal to bring Israel back to its godly roots. I think in such times, he would be stoned. In Deuteronomy 18:20 God says to His people, "But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die."

God often tested His people by seeing if they would be true to Him even as false prophets tried to lure them away from Himself. God says, "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst" (Deuteronomy 13:1-5).

Thank God for grace!!! (we don't stone false prophets now) but I believe God's feelings about false worship have not changed. As Glenn Beck calls this nation to pray for some very valuable, important and even vital things, I ask now, is God testing us in the same way today? Perhaps God has raised Glenn Beck up for this very purpose, to test our hearts. Just a thought!

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord, the one and only God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the eternal One, Yahweh, the great I AM, the Alpha and Omega, who is from everlasting to everlasting.

So, though I really like you Glenn, thanks for the invite, but I cannot join you.


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1 posted on 08/31/2010 6:42:37 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: greyfoxx39; Elsie; Quix; Colofornian; Tennessee Nana

Ping


2 posted on 08/31/2010 6:45:14 PM PDT by Gamecock (To see both the love of God and the wrath of God, look at the cross- Terry Johnson)
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To: Gamecock

I just want my money back and illegals extracted. The rightgeous will always win out.


3 posted on 08/31/2010 6:46:24 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Gamecock

Cut it out, dude. Get your eyes on the prize and off the MSM talking points.


4 posted on 08/31/2010 6:46:43 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: Gamecock

Lets try to keep focused on the immediate problem here - saving the USA from the godless iconoclasts & marxists - can we?


5 posted on 08/31/2010 6:46:55 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Gamecock

“I am no Bigot, I will pray with any man”

-Samuel Adams


6 posted on 08/31/2010 6:48:37 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: Gamecock

Good grief. I don’t think Glenn asked anyone to pray to his Mormon god.


7 posted on 08/31/2010 6:48:37 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Gamecock

200 posts, minimum on this one...


8 posted on 08/31/2010 6:49:01 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: barmag25

Agreed. Touche!


9 posted on 08/31/2010 6:50:31 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Gamecock

If you think Glenn’s God is not your God take Glenn’s message to mean get close to your God and still teach the founding principles of liberty, faith, hope and charity.

This guys just another “I won’t listen to anything Beck says because he’s a Mormon” bigot in my book.


10 posted on 08/31/2010 6:50:56 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: barmag25

AUTHOR OF THE DECLARATION OF AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE

OF THE STATUTE OF VIRGINIA FOR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM

AND FATHER OF THE UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA

Words on the tombstone of Thomas Jefferson as per his wish.


11 posted on 08/31/2010 6:52:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Gamecock

What a small man the pastor is.


12 posted on 08/31/2010 6:52:47 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Gamecock

I’m curious; if there is but one God then how the heck can Beck be praying to a “different” god?


13 posted on 08/31/2010 6:53:03 PM PDT by Tucsonican
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To: Gamecock

Well I know Glenn believes in God and he stated last week he believes in Jesus dying on the Cross. I haven’t heard what he believes concerning the Holy Spirit.


14 posted on 08/31/2010 6:53:28 PM PDT by swheats (America! America! God mend thine every flaw, Confirm thy soul in self-control, Thy liberty in law!)
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To: Gamecock

Now I remember why I stopped going to “””Christian””” Churches...

To quote Samuel Adams...”I am no bigot, I will pray with any man”

We have more immediate and pressing problems than which version of the bible is read.

Watch the FLAME war begin..and stuff my box with your concerns over my SOUL ... don’t effing bother!!!


15 posted on 08/31/2010 6:53:54 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Enough of Obama's Recovery ... Can I have my Bush Recession Back??)
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To: barmag25

There ya go!!!


16 posted on 08/31/2010 6:54:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Hanoi Boi" Kerry tops wealthiest lawmakers at $188.6 million! "Berthers" Rule!)
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To: Gamecock

Thx for the ping. Some good points well made, imho.


17 posted on 08/31/2010 6:55:17 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Gamecock
I suppose this person could not of stood with many of the founding fathers since their religious beliefs were so different Jefferson who edited the bible to fit what he thought should of been in there to George Washington being a Mason.
18 posted on 08/31/2010 6:56:40 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Tucsonican

Because Glen is praying to a God who doesn’t exist.

I like Mormons. I think they are fine people but their beliefs are really out there.


19 posted on 08/31/2010 6:56:53 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Gamecock

So???

Who really gives a flip?


20 posted on 08/31/2010 6:57:19 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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