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To: metmom
I’ll take that as a *Yes*.

LOL! That's not a "yes" because what I said was not a judgment but simply an observation of fact — i.e. others openly judging who's in hell and who's in heaven.

7,000 posted on 09/26/2010 8:17:00 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: kosta50

I thought I was the only one who noticed that.


7,002 posted on 09/26/2010 8:30:08 PM PDT by Jaded (I realized that after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F)
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To: kosta50; metmom
...simply an observation of fact — i.e. others openly judging who's in hell and who's in heaven.

So, let me get this straight, Protestants are bad because they say who is in hell, but Catholics are okay because they only say who is in heaven?

I sincerely hope Mother Teresa is rejoicing in the presence of Jesus as we speak, I really do. I think what she did for others was remarkable and not many people would take her place. But that is why it saddens me that she expressed such despair of her faith. It shouldn't happen that way.

Romans 5:2-5
2By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
3And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
4And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
5And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

7,003 posted on 09/26/2010 10:13:24 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: kosta50; boatbums
LOL! That's not a "yes" because what I said was not a judgment but simply an observation of fact — i.e. others openly judging who's in hell and who's in heaven.

So, when Protestants do it, it's bad, but when Catholics do it, it's good?

Like when Catholics tell Protestants that they're heretics and the CCC says that those who reject RCC teaching are going to hell; and Catholics say that they don't condemn anyone to hell, they just point out that Protestants are condemning themselves to hell and using the CCC to support that.

It's all semantics and Catholics are not fooling anyone with it at all. Judging who's in heaven is no different than judging who's in hell because both are acts of judgment based on some sort of criteria. It's not better to judge who's in heaven because heaven is a good place vs judging who's in hell because hell is a bad place.

If Catholics judging who's in heaven, then they're taking the place of God, the very thing that's condemned when Protestants do it. Judgment is judgment whether it's cloaked as *good* or *bad*.

Catholics judge who's made it and who hasn't all the time. Can you say *hypocrite*?

7,004 posted on 09/26/2010 10:30:55 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: kosta50

Salvation is through faith in Christ. If you don’t have faith in Christ, you’re not saved, no matter how many good deeds, like the kind of Mother Teresa, you do.

If she didn’t trust Christ, didn’t have faith in Him, she didn’t make it, works notwithstanding.

Despair is not a hallmark of faith.

It’s a simple observation of fact.


7,005 posted on 09/26/2010 10:33:46 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: kosta50; metmom
LOL! That's not a "yes" because what I said was not a judgment but simply an observation of fact — i.e. others openly judging who's in hell and who's in heaven.

Every time the Roman church declares someone a "saint" they are judging the eternity of that person are they not?

So it ok to declare someone is in heaven if one is catholic, but not hell ??? The truth is the church has most likely said that many that are burning in hell are in heaven hearing and answering prayers..

7,020 posted on 09/27/2010 1:39:21 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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