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To: wagglebee
Wagglebee.....Few would have needed the article in the beginning of this thread to understand that the worship of Mary is not and was never intended to be included with our worship of Christ...we can honor her role but not to the extent the catholic articles posted throughout this thread have revealed.

I prefer not respond to your 'show me' questions....these have been responded to and debated many times, by many posters, on religious threads and hardly comic-book articles, though as usual some of those trickle in. But what I woud say again is Clearly and most profoundly understood, that 'Christ' is to be worshiped above all others...and there is nothing in scripture that God elevates Mary to the extreme position the catholic church has.

I am not anti-catholic but I certainly will go up against what I see goes against Gods word regardless of the church affiliation....It's disturbing when anyone who disagrees with catholic doctrine is labeled as so...it makes catholics look like whinning victims... if they are Christians that is not the stance Christ called them to be in the face of conflict...truth can and does always stand..it does not creep behind a veil of anti-anything to protect itself.....it stands firm...always.

You stated..." the left attacks Catholicism because they believe that if they destroy the Catholic Church that all other Christians will just give up."

The left may believe that but all other Christians do not base their beliefs, or the survival on what happens to the catholic church....we understand the garbage needs to be taken out in 'all' churches who have brought it in... and that includes all churches who have allowed and enabled the body of believers to be infected by worldly ideas and behavior... again..none are exempt if they are His.

2,225 posted on 09/08/2010 8:32:16 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
"Few would have needed the article in the beginning of this thread to understand that the worship of Mary...

Getting the premise wrong negates the entirety of your argument. Catholics NO NOT worship Mary, we venerate her. Game, set, and match.

2,227 posted on 09/08/2010 8:34:47 AM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: caww

INDEED TO THE MAX:


Few would have needed the article in the beginning of this thread to understand that the worship of Mary is not and was never intended to be included with our worship of Christ...we can honor her role but not to the extent the catholic articles posted throughout this thread have revealed.
I prefer not respond to your ‘show me’ questions....these have been responded to and debated many times, by many posters, on religious threads and hardly comic-book articles, though as usual some of those trickle in. But what I woud say again is Clearly and most profoundly understood, that ‘Christ’ is to be worshiped above all others...and there is nothing in scripture that God elevates Mary to the extreme position the catholic church has.

I am not anti-catholic but I certainly will go up against what I see goes against Gods word regardless of the church affiliation....It’s disturbing when anyone who disagrees with catholic doctrine is labeled as so...it makes catholics look like whinning victims... if they are Christians that is not the stance Christ called them to be in the face of conflict...truth can and does always stand..it does not creep behind a veil of anti-anything to protect itself.....it stands firm...always.

You stated...” the left attacks Catholicism because they believe that if they destroy the Catholic Church that all other Christians will just give up.”

The left may believe that but all other Christians do not base their beliefs, or the survival on what happens to the catholic church....we understand the garbage needs to be taken out in ‘all’ churches who have brought it in... and that includes all churches who have allowed and enabled the body of believers to be infected by worldly ideas and behavior... again..none are exempt if they are His.


2,229 posted on 09/08/2010 8:44:27 AM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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Wagglebee.....Few would have needed the article in the beginning of this thread to understand that the worship of Mary is not and was never intended to be included with our worship of Christ...

Try to stay focused, this thread is about the misguided notion that the Catholic Church wants to bring back the Holy Roman Empire. Which is an incredibly absurd premise for anyone who knows anything about history because the TRUTH is that the Catholic Church and the Holy Roman Empire had an incredibly antagonistic relationship with each other for centuries.

I prefer not respond to your 'show me' questions....these have been responded to and debated many times, by many posters, on religious threads and hardly comic-book articles, though as usual some of those trickle in.

Yes, the have been debated ad nauseam, still missing is any documentation that the Catholic Church has EVER taught that the Blessed Virgin Mary:
- Died for the sins of mankind.
- Was crucified.
- Was raised from the dead in bodily form.
- Is the hand that moves in our life today.

But what I woud say again is Clearly and most profoundly understood, that 'Christ' is to be worshiped above all others...and there is nothing in scripture that God elevates Mary to the extreme position the Catholic Church has.

Christ alone is worshipped. If what certain bigots claimed about Catholic Marian beliefs were true, there would be a problem; however, since the claims of these bigots are false, there is no problem.

I am not anti-catholic

I never suggested you were, though I have always found that denial prior to accusation is among the surest signs of guilt.

2,247 posted on 09/08/2010 9:02:42 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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