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To: roamer_1; D-fendr
Oh, it IS relevant considering that YOU said in #2092
Look up the Sabbath Day,
then d-fendr in 2102
Sunday isn't just for Catholics.
to which you replied in 2106
Nothing in the Bible changes the Sabbath Day
which is wrong -- as d-fendr pointed out Christian celebrate the Lord’s Day, the New Creation, on Sunday, as they have since Acts
And of coure in 2112 you insisted in typical anti-Church fashion
No, there is nothing in the Bible that changes the Sabbath
D-fendr in 2115 tried to repeat Christians, Protestant and Catholic, celebrate the Lord's Day on Sunday. It seems to me Protestants would rather shoot their dog than follow Catholics if it "ain't in Scripture."

of course if you aren't Christians but Jehovah's Witness, Unitarian etc., you can do what you want.
2,146 posted on 09/08/2010 2:02:36 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Quix; roamer_1; wmfights
For QUix's ease, instead of going back through posts:
Roamer_1 said said in #2092
Look up the Sabbath Day,
then d-fendr in 2102
Sunday isn't just for Catholics.
to which you replied in 2106
Nothing in the Bible changes the Sabbath Day
which is wrong -- as d-fendr pointed out Christian celebrate the Lord’s Day, the New Creation, on Sunday, as they have since Acts
And of coure in 2112 you insisted in typical anti-Church fashion
No, there is nothing in the Bible that changes the Sabbath
D-fendr in 2115 tried to repeat Christians, Protestant and Catholic, celebrate the Lord's Day on Sunday.

2,187 posted on 09/08/2010 4:45:19 AM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: Cronos; D-fendr
[...] which is wrong -- as d-fendr pointed out Christian celebrate the Lord’s Day, the New Creation, on Sunday, as they have since Acts

That simply isn't true. What is most often noted as "The Lord's Day," and "first day of the week" is the word SABBATWN - which points to God's High Holy Days.

The Holy Days of the Lord cannot be changed without making His word null in the Torah - And the Torah stands FOREVER... Even as the Sabbath Day stands... FOREVER, since before the establishement of the Law...

Why would Christ sanction changing what the Father said was forever established? He would not. It is a tradition of men.

Furthermore, those Holy Days (at least 3 of them) are predicted by the prophets to be resumed during the Millenial Reign - That is a fair indication that Christ Himself will re-institute them... Which casts great doubt upon those who have removed them, purportedly in Christ's name:

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. (e-Sword: KJV)

To be sure, the Roman Church admits the Holy Days were changed of her own authority. she gloats about her power:

“Question - Which is the Sabbath day?
“Answer - Saturday is the Sabbath day.

“Question - Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
“Answer - We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A.D. 364), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.” Peter Geiermann, C.S.S.R., The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50, 3rd edition, 1957.

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“Nowhere in the Bible is it stated that worship should be changed from Saturday to Sunday...Now the Church...instituted, by God’s authority, Sunday as the day of worship. This same Church, by the same divine authority, taught the doctrine of Purgatory long before the Bible was made. We have, therefore, the same authority for Purgatory as we have for Sunday.” Martin J. Scott, Things Catholics Are Asked About, 1927 edition, p. 136.

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“Is Saturday the seventh day according to the Bible and the Ten Commandments? I answer yes. Is Sunday the first day of the week and did the Church change the seventh day - Saturday - for Sunday, the first day? I answer yes. Did Christ change the day’? I answer no!” “Faithfully yours, J. Card. Gibbons.” James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, Md. (1877-1921), in a signed letter.

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The Catholic church for over one thousand years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday...The Protestant World at its birth found the Christian Sabbath too strongly entrenched to run counter to its existence; it was therefore placed under the necessity of acquiescing in the arrangement, thus implying the (Catholic) Church’s right to change the day, for over three hundred years. The Christian Sabbath is therefore to this day, the acknowledged offspring of the Catholic Church as spouse of the Holy Ghost, without a word of remonstrance from the Protestant World.” James Cardinal Gibbons in the Catholic Mirror, September 23, 1983.

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“Question. What warrant have you for keeping Sunday preferably to the ancient sabbath which was Saturday?
“Answer. We have for it the authority of the Catholic church and apostolic tradition.

“Protestantism, in discarding the authority of the (Roman Catholic) Church, has no good reasons for its Sunday theory, and ought logically to keep Saturday as the Sabbath.” John Gilmary Shea, American Catholic Quarterly Review, January 1883.

2,576 posted on 09/08/2010 3:22:47 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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