Replies

[...] which is wrong -- as d-fendr pointed out Christian celebrate the Lord’s Day, the New Creation, on Sunday, as they have since Acts

That simply isn't true. What is most often noted as "The Lord's Day," and "first day of the week" is the word SABBATWN - which points to God's High Holy Days.

The Holy Days of the Lord cannot be changed without making His word null in the Torah - And the Torah stands FOREVER... Even as the Sabbath Day stands... FOREVER, since before the establishement of the Law...

Why would Christ sanction changing what the Father said was forever established? He would not. It is a tradition of men.

Furthermore, those Holy Days (at least 3 of them) are predicted by the prophets to be resumed during the Millenial Reign - That is a fair indication that Christ Himself will re-institute them... Which casts great doubt upon those who have removed them, purportedly in Christ's name:

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. (e-Sword: KJV)

To be sure, the Roman Church admits the Holy Days were changed of her own authority. she gloats about her power:

“Question - Which is the Sabbath day?
“Answer - Saturday is the Sabbath day.

“Question - Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
“Answer - We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A.D. 364), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.” Peter Geiermann, C.S.S.R., The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50, 3rd edition, 1957.

::-----------------------------------------------------::

“Nowhere in the Bible is it stated that worship should be changed from Saturday to Sunday...Now the Church...instituted, by God’s authority, Sunday as the day of worship. This same Church, by the same divine authority, taught the doctrine of Purgatory long before the Bible was made. We have, therefore, the same authority for Purgatory as we have for Sunday.” Martin J. Scott, Things Catholics Are Asked About, 1927 edition, p. 136.

::-----------------------------------------------------::

“Is Saturday the seventh day according to the Bible and the Ten Commandments? I answer yes. Is Sunday the first day of the week and did the Church change the seventh day - Saturday - for Sunday, the first day? I answer yes. Did Christ change the day’? I answer no!” “Faithfully yours, J. Card. Gibbons.” James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, Md. (1877-1921), in a signed letter.

::-----------------------------------------------------::

“The Catholic church for over one thousand years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday...The Protestant World at its birth found the Christian Sabbath too strongly entrenched to run counter to its existence; it was therefore placed under the necessity of acquiescing in the arrangement, thus implying the (Catholic) Church’s right to change the day, for over three hundred years. The Christian Sabbath is therefore to this day, the acknowledged offspring of the Catholic Church as spouse of the Holy Ghost, without a word of remonstrance from the Protestant World.” James Cardinal Gibbons in the Catholic Mirror, September 23, 1983.

::-----------------------------------------------------::

“Question. What warrant have you for keeping Sunday preferably to the ancient sabbath which was Saturday?
“Answer. We have for it the authority of the Catholic church and apostolic tradition.

“Protestantism, in discarding the authority of the (Roman Catholic) Church, has no good reasons for its Sunday theory, and ought logically to keep Saturday as the Sabbath.” John Gilmary Shea, American Catholic Quarterly Review, January 1883.

well, it is a good question. And yet there is a valid answer: historical, religious and biblical - passages of Scripture such as Acts 20:7 ( 7On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.), 1 Corinthians 16:2(2On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made., Colossians 2:16-17(16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ, and Revelation 1:10 indicate that, even during New Testament times, the Sabbath is no longer binding and that Christians are to worship on the Lord’s day, Sunday, instead.

Next, since you go by sola scriptura, I gave you the above, but also, historically, we see that the early Church Fathers compared the observance of the Sabbath to the observance of the rite of circumcision, and from that they demonstrated that if the apostles abolished circumcision (Gal. 5:1-6), so also the observance of the Sabbath must have been abolished.

"We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead" (Letter of Barnabas 15:6–8 [A.D. 74]).

or from Ignatius of Antioch

"[T]hose who were brought up in the ancient order of things [i.e. Jews] have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death" (Letter to the Magnesians 8 [A.D. 110]).

and Justin Martyr

"But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead" (First Apology 67 [A.D. 155]).

however, let me repeat -- unless you knew of these scriptural reasons and also the historical proof that the earliest Christians celebrated on the Lord's day, Sunday, you could easily be misled as you were and as SeventhDay adventists are misled. Hence, a good question, but one that is easily answered by the above proofs, scriptural and historical

And the Torah stands FOREVER... Even as the Sabbath Day stands... FOREVER

Yes, as I said The Church did not change Sabbath to Sunday, we did not change Sabbath, we now worship on the Lord's Day, the first day of the week, Sunday.

Also, your statement " authority from the very act of changing the Sabbath day" is completely utterly incorrect. At no point does The Church state that that is the cornerstone or even one of the foundation stones of authority of Christ's Church.

If you check the official stance of the Church in the Catechim 2171

2171 God entrusted the sabbath to Israel to keep as a sign of the irrevocable covenant.95 The sabbath is for the Lord, holy and set apart for the praise of God, his work of creation, and his saving actions on behalf of Israel.

2172 God's action is the model for human action. If God "rested and was refreshed" on the seventh day, man too ought to "rest" and should let others, especially the poor, "be refreshed."96 The sabbath brings everyday work to a halt and provides a respite. It is a day of protest against the servitude of work and the worship of money.97

2173 The Gospel reports many incidents when Jesus was accused of violating the sabbath law. But Jesus never fails to respect the holiness of this day.98 He gives this law its authentic and authoritative interpretation: "The sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath."99 With compassion, Christ declares the sabbath for doing good rather than harm, for saving life rather than killing.100 The sabbath is the day of the Lord of mercies and a day to honor God.101 "The Son of Man is lord even of the sabbath."102

This goes on to say

2174 Jesus rose from the dead "on the first day of the week."104 Because it is the "first day," the day of Christ's Resurrection recalls the first creation. Because it is the "eighth day" following the sabbath,105 it symbolizes the new creation ushered in by Christ's Resurrection. For Christians it has become the first of all days, the first of all feasts, the Lord's Day (he kuriake hemera, dies dominica) Sunday:
We all gather on the day of the sun, for it is the first day [after the Jewish sabbath, but also the first day] when God, separating matter from darkness, made the world; and on this same day Jesus Christ our Savior rose from the dead.106

In the year 110—only twelve years after the death of the last apostle—Ignatius, bishop of Antioch, calls the Sabbath "antiquated." The full passage of the letter of Ignatius to the Magnesians, reads: "Do not be led astray by other doctrines nor by old fables which are worthless. For if we have been living by now according to Judaism, we must confess that we have not received grace. The prophets . . . who walked in ancient customs came to a new hope, no longer Sabbatizing but living by the Lord’s day, on which we came to life through Him and through His death."

Ignatius was of Antioch - from 110 AD and Antioch did not celebrate Sabbath but the Lord's Day, Sunday

You can wail about Jews as much as you want but Christians were still considered a Jewish sect until the destruction of the Second Temple in AD 69. There were many Judaizers in the first century, but with the end of the second Temple, it was understood that there was a new covenant with the entire world (yet the old covenant with the Jews remained and remains).

Around the years 80–90, Christians were thrown out of the synagogues. This may have provided further stimulus for Christians to change their worship from Sabbath to Sunday. The apostle John wrote his gospel in this same time frame, significant because it provided for Christians an explanation of how God could change an "everlasting" law. John wrote how the world had been symbolically created anew in Jesus. One implication of this is that with the passion, death, and resurrection of Christ one eternity had ended and another had begun. God could therefore abrogate an everlasting law and still not contradict himself.

If you wish to argue with +John go ahead.

Romans 14 is talking about fasting / days for fasting --> quite wrong, Romans 14 says clearly
5One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.
You may quote any early work outside of Scripture that has extant copies dating before 300. The rest (basically all) are suspect, and I will reject them outright. --> if you claim that the works of the Didache are suspect, why do you not claim that scripture is suspect -- both those errors are claimed by the heresiachs and they were wrong. +Ignatius is quite clear that first century Christians celebrated on Sunday.