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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: JoeProBono

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961 posted on 09/01/2010 5:47:54 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: JoeProBono

Ahhhh welll

off to church . . .

of course, the rabid clique types plus a lot of the regular RC’s just think I’m off,

period.

LOL.


962 posted on 09/01/2010 5:49:14 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

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963 posted on 09/01/2010 5:57:01 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: sitetest; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

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965 posted on 09/01/2010 7:22:18 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: OLD REGGIE

INDEED.


966 posted on 09/01/2010 7:23:18 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: smvoice

INDEED. VERY WELL PUT.

THX.


967 posted on 09/01/2010 7:24:16 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: JoeProBono

THX THX.


968 posted on 09/01/2010 7:28:21 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: sitetest; OLD REGGIE; Natural Law
That exchange is a good example of "making it personal." It also illustrates the tendency of posters to return fire for fire and to escalate disputes.

OLD REGGIE and Natural Law, DO NOT accuse another Freeper of telling lies. That attributes motive, the intent to deceive. It is "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

969 posted on 09/01/2010 7:31:57 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: bronx2
We would do well to pray for their soul and pray for the Holy Spirit to guide and direct them. The age of miracles isn't over. God bless.

I agree,dear friend,and pray for many here during Adoration often.

That said, we cannot enable them to spew either without response sometime

I wish you a Blessed evening!

970 posted on 09/01/2010 7:32:16 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Religion Moderator
"DO NOT accuse another Freeper of telling lies."

Excuse me, but you are going to have to point out to me where I accused anyone in specific of lying. I have been extremely careful not to bait or feed trolls or use any "y" words.

I did however assert that there are indeed liars who frequent this site. Is that in dispute?

971 posted on 09/01/2010 7:39:23 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Natural Law
Your post 902 is thinly vieled, i.e. "know exactly." It is finessing the guidelines.

Do not make it personal.

972 posted on 09/01/2010 7:46:32 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Natural Law

All the animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.


973 posted on 09/01/2010 7:47:46 PM PDT by sitetest ( If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Religion Moderator; Natural Law
Dear Religion Moderator,

The two posts are not equivalent. One actually IS a veiled remark. It's not much different than, "All Catholics who accept that Mary was assumed into Heaven are idolaters," and posting it to a crowd of Catholics who have just finished explaining the reasonableness of the dogma of the Assumption. It is more veiled, less explicit than any of the psychotically-formatted (and likely demonically-infested) "rabid clique" posts.

The other is not veiled at all. Through the use of an image, it calls specific posters liars.

To equate them is evidence of bias.


sitetest

974 posted on 09/01/2010 8:06:47 PM PDT by sitetest ( If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

You are in no position to judge me. I have the rap sheets. You don’t.


975 posted on 09/01/2010 8:31:35 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: sitetest; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

All the animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.


INDEED!

Clearly the RC’S ARE GREATLY MORE EQUAL than Proddys hereon and always have been.

RABID CLIQUES OF RC’S

more or less get away with extremely thinly veiled accusations—calling clearly specified Proddys “LIARS” virtually day in and day out if not 100% literally day in and day out. Every regular poster hereon could likely “guess” specifically who the two main targets are and be 99.99% to 100% accurate 100% of the time.

Yet the RC’s get called down on it probably once or twice a week to once or twice in 3 weeks.

So, yeah, the RC’s are soooooooooooooooooooooooooo disadvantaged. /sarc to the max.

That any of you would assert so in the face of piles of evidence to the opposite is an outrageously vivid declaration and demonstration of the gross lack of insight and poor reality testing so chronic amongst the rabid cliques under the RC umbrella.

Proddys don’t even accuse anyone of such a thing very often at all. Even when we have an epidemic of such we still only tend to do it 3-5 times a month, on average. And MANY months will go by when none of us do it at all.

And, we are much more skillful and rule abiding in that we put our accusations much more genuinely in truly broader general terms.

Yet we get called down on it as often as the RC’s do. Go figure.

I think most Proddys can even appreciate the bind the RM must be in wanting genuinely to be fair as well as to genuinely APPEAR to be fair to all sides. It’s just that many times, THAT need, goal, strategy, whatever, seems to disadvantage Proddys rather excessively on some points and issues—particularly when such as the LIAR LIAR accusation stuff is REALLY NOT THAT OFTEN A THING that Proddys are remotely guilty of

WHILE IT IS A DAILY THING by the RC’s against the Proddys.

Also, the facts, to me are horrifically starkly different on the two sides.

I know there was some indicent—maybe he would claim more than one incident where in Mad Dawg was accusing Dr E of brazenly lying. I read through the accusations and perspectives of both sides publicly and privately and still BELIEVED IT WAS A CASE OF REASONABLE PEOPLE COULD DIFFER ON THEIR PERCEPTIONS OF WHAT THE FACTS TRULY WERE.

And that was the WORST accusation I can ever recall against a Proddy hereon about lying.

However, I’ve seen Dr E accused of lying routinely. Hardly a day goes by that she is not accused of lying. Yet, when she documents that THE ACCUSER IS ACTUALLY THE ONE LYING—the whole thing skates by.

The recent business of her buying the encylcical and being told she was lying about that is just a recent outrageous case of such. There was no apology at all—just more bluster and outrageous accusation stuff.

The bulk of the rabid clique sorts of RC posters hereon are deepening my appreciation of the horrific dreadfulness of their perspective, their “spirituality,” their dogma, their idolatries, their blasphemies and their characters as well as of the whole Vatican structure that seems to breed such attitudes so liberally and frequently.

If I knew any of them were leaders in any congregation, I’d work very hard to avoid the congregation if it were the last one on earth.

I’m personally persisting in decreasing a lot of my rants about such things. I’m adding rabid clique members who I’m putting on more or less permenant virtually 100% ignore. their attitudes and demonstrations of their “Christianity” are not worthy my responses and I’m just a snotty nosed poor white trash version of a Christian.

Nevertheless, I believe every Proddy on here, including Dr E, really cares for every other FREEPER of any and every persuasion. We would rather that all individuals have a vibrant, genuine, growthful, redemptive, overcoming relationship with Jesus first and foremost.

THAT is one of the reasons we are so fiercely forceful about truths and principles we are convinced are Biblical vs those which we find hostile to true Biblical Christianity. By God’s grace we shall go on being so.

Yes, we will forcefully tell it as we see it. God expects that of us. It is in the Biblical and New Testament pattern.

There’s plenty more to say. However, I’ll stop here.


976 posted on 09/01/2010 8:34:53 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

Quix said, and I highlight:

‘...I’m just a snotty nosed poor white trash version of a Christian.

‘Nevertheless, I believe every Proddy on here, including Dr E, really cares for every other FREEPER of any and every persuasion. We would rather that all individuals have a vibrant, genuine, growthful, redemptive, overcoming relationship with Jesus first and foremost.

‘THAT is one of the reasons we are so fiercely forceful about truths and principles we are convinced are Biblical vs those which we find hostile to true Biblical Christianity. By God’s grace we shall go on being so.

‘Yes, we will forcefully tell it as we see it. God expects that of us. It is in the Biblical and New Testament pattern.’

= = =
Thank you FRiend. Your calibre of genuine Christianity is top notch, not snotty nosed po’ white trash.


977 posted on 09/01/2010 8:46:34 PM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: OLD REGGIE
lolol. And when they call FReepers a "liar" and insist "the encyclical was never for sale," that mirror proves them wrong yet again.

For $7 (over-priced at half the cost)...

"CHARITY IN TRUTH"
Pauline Books and Media


978 posted on 09/01/2010 8:51:06 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Quix

Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.


Guess who this church belongs too ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_titular_sees_%28L-M%29


979 posted on 09/01/2010 8:53:00 PM PDT by Lera
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To: Quix; sitetest

This post always cracks me up because what is really hilarious is the spelling, especially since it is used to ridicule the post of another.


980 posted on 09/01/2010 8:59:50 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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