They are threatened by the truth.
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parade about again!
Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
be ye followers of me, as I also am of Christ (1 Cor. 4:16)
Exactly.. this doctrine flows from a primitive church that thought of sex as "d i r t y "or sinful
After Constantine, when priests were still allowed to marry, the Roman practice of abstaining from marital relations before a battle came into the church . Priests were ordered to abstain from intimacy with their wives the night before they celebrated Mass. Whether intended or not it sent the message that sex was not a gift of God, but unclean.
That could well be, although it would seem to pose a problem with God's good command to be fruitful and multiply. If one is so blessed I would think it would be a good and Godly thing to give birth. I've never really understood the logic behind the idea that Mary later having sex would be a defilement. Lev. 12:1-4 :
I always thought that ceremonial uncleanliness had nothing necessarily to do with sin, it just meant that one had to wash (be purified) before one could partake in certain activities. Men were unclean for "having a discharge", but since God set it up that we procreate in this way I don't see how anyone can find something "wrong" with it. Babies are blessings FROM God, so why would some think that God would not want to further bless "Blessed Mary"? :)
One thing is certain.. even if that was true, or even if Mary became a prostitute after the birth..it has NOTHING to do with our salvation.
Amen. I take what I think is reasonable inference from the Bible that Mary did go on to have other children, but I would never question someone else's profession for not thinking so.
I live in the "upstate" of SC, it's freaking "Radio Eckleburg" around here.
[note to the RM: I don't think that last bit crosses the line, I certainly didn't intend it to.]
In this post and your last one you speak in derogatory terms about various people and then you wrap them all up in the very "personal" remark that they're all "freaking 'radio Eckleburg."
That is clearly "making it personal" and against the rules. You even seem to know that but you post it anyway.
If you don't want to break the rules, why not just stop referring to individual FReepers negatively and by name?
8~)
Well you’re not the maniac I was referring to, that should have been pretty obvious from the context. I meant the radio in my area is like your posts constantly, one slam against what I believe after another.
I actually thought you might take it as a compliment but I wasn’t sure if it was “good” personal or “bad” personal.
If someone wrote “It’s Air Legatus where I live” I’d like it.
Given Paul's words at 1 Cor. 1:12,13,
“Now this I say that every one of you saith I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
Is Christ divided was Paul crucified for you ? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?”,
it would seem that the word he used at 1 Cor. 4:16, “mimetes” (from which we draw the word “mimic”) would be better translated “imitator” rather than “follower”, a nuance missed in many translations, as per your quote from the Douay Version. It really says nothing about “acting in the person of Christ” unless you've invented some esoteric meaning for “as I also am”.
I really have to wonder where you come up with your ideas and conclusions since they seem so far removed from even the most basic investigation of the Scriptures.
Oh well, what do you have next?
A person who imitates another is in a very real sense acting in the person of another, rather than in the presence of another. You are making my point.
1 Cor. 4:16 says nothing about person or presence, remember your quote?
Unless you have something of substance to add........Good night.
I thought that being “thin-skinned” on an open thread was disruptive.
Evidently, it depends on the skin.
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(LEGATUS: "it's freaking 'Radio Eckleburg' around here.")
I can only question your judgment if you think that's a compliment.
If someone wrote “It’s Air Legatus where I live” I’d like it.
But that wasn't your remark. You wrote "freaking 'Radio Eckleburg.'"
"Freaking" is a compliment where you come from?
Just leave my name out of your trash talk and I'll do the same for you.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Funny, I always picture as the other end of that horse.
lol. So it wasn’t a total waste. 8~)
It's not my fault if Roman Catholic beliefs and artifacts turn up on New Age websites. Apparently they go hand-in-hand.
Yep. Just lots of conjecture about various traditions of men.
Nice depiction of a nimbus. Reckon it was to indicate divinity?
lol. Sounds like something you'd hear passing a construction site. 8~)
Reckon it was to indicate divinity?
Yep. One of several tells.
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