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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

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Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: caww
"Why is the Catholic church called "Mother Church"....because of the belief in Mary as a Godhead with Christ?"

Because there is a relationship between man and God and man and Church that parallels the natural nuclear family. God is the father, the Creator, Law Giver, Protector, Provider and Judge. The Church is the mother. Its role is to nurture, educate and serve the family of man.

8,161 posted on 10/01/2010 11:02:08 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Religion Moderator; RnMomof7
" all our righteousness is filthy bloody menstrual rags before a HOLY God."

I need some clarification. How is a reference to "filthy bloody menstrual rags" not offensive "potty language"? I have had posts pulled for using the word "arse" in the context of explaining why its homonym "RC" is offensive.

8,162 posted on 10/01/2010 11:13:04 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Well I had in mind “Mount Holy Olive Second Baptist Zion Church of God in Christ of Resurrected Latter-Day AMEs” but I didn’t think we wanted Shirley Q. Liquor in here. So I had to wing it.


8,163 posted on 10/01/2010 11:29:23 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: caww
Why is the Catholic church called "Mother Church"....because of the belief in Mary as a Godhead with Christ?

And out of all that you got "Mother Church"? What does a mother do? I think your answer is there.

8,164 posted on 10/01/2010 11:37:36 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: Running On Empty

Today is the Feast day of St. Therese.

Carmelites around the world—both religious and lay people—are celebrating.

Yes.

Thank you.


8,165 posted on 10/01/2010 11:47:44 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: boatbums

Yes! :)


8,166 posted on 10/02/2010 1:55:30 AM PDT by maryz
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To: caww
Why is the Catholic church called "Mother Church"....because of the belief in Mary as a Godhead with Christ?

Pretty much the same reasons Russians have traditonally referred to "Mother Russia" and Germans call Germany the "Fatherland"; the same reason one refers to one's "mother tongue". In fact, the same impulse with an ironic twist produced "Ma Bell."

The second part of your post demonstrates only ignorance on many levels and is best ignored.

8,167 posted on 10/02/2010 2:08:27 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Natural Law; RnMomof7
Biblical references which would otherwise be considered potty language are allowed. For instance, the term "dung" is used in the Bible and if it is being referenced directly, it is allowed. The term "filthy rags" is used in the Bible to describe "all our righteousness" and therefore is allowed because of that context.
8,168 posted on 10/02/2010 5:18:57 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Nobody objects to “filthy rags” as you termed it. What I don’t like is the term “filthy bloody menstrual rags.” So, you’re saying that’s okay?


8,169 posted on 10/02/2010 5:23:53 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Religion Moderator

PS, that’s the statement in post 7900.


8,170 posted on 10/02/2010 5:24:22 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne
Yes, because that is what the term means.
8,171 posted on 10/02/2010 5:27:35 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Thank you for your explanation. This is something that I and many others knew already, however, I have never found it necessary to be that graphic here on the forum.


8,172 posted on 10/02/2010 5:35:33 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Religion Moderator; RnMomof7
"The term "filthy rags" is used in the Bible to describe "all our righteousness"..."

However, the term, "bloody menstrual rags", "bloody rags", and "menstrual" are not. Additionally, the term "filthy rags" is not found in any modern bibles. There is a single usage in the King James Version in Isaiah (64:6) but there is no biblical context for the presumption that filthy rags means anything other than the soiled clothing worn by beggars or lepers. There is a usage of "bloody flux", the disease by which the father of Publius was afflicted in Malta (Acts 28:8) but that is an archaic medical term for dysentery. The offensive terms are not even found in the contemporaneous Douay-Rheims Bible or the Wycliffe New Testament.

I appreciate that the standard must be subjective, but it appears that some posters receive deferential consideration when using highly objectionable language.

8,173 posted on 10/02/2010 7:45:31 AM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Natural Law; Religion Moderator; 1000 silverlings; metmom; boatbums; smvoice; Quix; Gamecock; ...
However, the term, "bloody menstrual rags", "bloody rags", and "menstrual" are not. Additionally, the term "filthy rags" is not found in any modern bibles. There is a single usage in the King James Version in Isaiah (64:6) but there is no biblical context for the presumption that filthy rags means anything other than the soiled clothing worn by beggars or lepers.

Man up for petes sake

That is exactly what the Hebrew word means.. remember a woman's period made her "unclean" and required a cleansing ritual following it?

The Hebrew word is `iddah;

It is a FEMALE noun defined as
1) menstruation
a) filthy rag, stained garment

Study your theology ..and BTW we are grown ups here and can actually say menstruation with out running from it

8,174 posted on 10/02/2010 8:55:48 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Legatus
As for the American bishops... the floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops.

As is the case for all "fake" preachers.

8,175 posted on 10/02/2010 8:58:02 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Natural Law
So you are saying that you have to talk your way into heaven, unless you are elect then you can keep your mouth shut and if you are not elect nothing you say matters.

No, Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith

If one does good works with the hope they will weigh in on their salvation they are not in the sake of Jesus or truly in His name , they are self-serving sins before God.. we can do NOTHING THAT WILL "IMPRESS " God or commend us to him..

8,176 posted on 10/02/2010 9:02:36 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: D-fendr
Even if they were doomed to hell in the womb? Belief is irrelevant to salvation in double predestination.

LOL, you only prove ignorance of reformed doctrine when you post things like this

8,177 posted on 10/02/2010 9:04:45 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Jaded; 1000 silverlings; metmom; boatbums; smvoice; Quix; Gamecock; count-your-change; ...
You are the one that went there in the first place by contradicting the bible.

Where did I contradict the bible (I can not believe i am asking a catholic that) ..

8,178 posted on 10/02/2010 9:06:51 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: D-fendr; 1000 silverlings
Pride and presumption all in two short sentences.

Please explain your rationale.

8,179 posted on 10/02/2010 9:15:59 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Legatus
If God is triune, but they lack individual person hood, there is no three persons in the trinity but a modalist god that appears in different forms

The word person has meaning ...

8,180 posted on 10/02/2010 9:18:10 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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