Matthew 7:6
To be expected from an
snob.Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Boy will he be surprised !
Well if Mary dispenses grace I guess MT could be put in charge of humility..If her words were true, she is in a great place to learn it
Kosta has as much right to participate in this discussion as any convential "Christian". (I have been asked the same question, even "invited" to leave the discussion so I may have a slightly more "Unitarian" perspective.) :-)
I fully expect you will provide a current survey from a "reputable" source. Reasonable huh?
Yes, we most definitely should consider the source. "All scripture is given by inspiration of God" comes to mind. The Gospels are quite a lot more than "just" the quotations of Jesus, if you are familiar with them. And in the same way, the rest of scripture is relevant in many ways to our lives. I think it is a little spurious to try to place "importance" of some "over" others since God has chosen to reveal himself to us in this way and has preserved it from destruction for all these millennium. The only "alleged" Christians I have read that have tried to place preeminence of some scripture over others are the ones who claim their own revealed, extra-biblical documents.
This is what happens when 1)you do not read the Bible, 2) when you believe God is going to weigh your "good works" against your "bad" and judge you that way, and 3) you believe you get to work off your sins in purgatory
From their FAVORITE writer
Jam 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all.
Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
That’s not a very nice thing to say about the WCF or Institutes of the Christian Religion.
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They do not understand...
Actually we REALLY believe the Trinity is 3 PERSONS in one God
Not one god with 3 personas
It’s much simpler than all that:
You’re either born lucky or born unlucky.
The rest is superfluous to anything regarding salvation.
An attempt to change the subject?
ag·nos·tic (ag-nos?tik) noun
One who believes that there can be no proof of the existence of God but does not deny the possibility that God exists.
Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable.
a·the·ism (?the-iz´?m) noun
1. a. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods. b. The doctrine that there is no God or gods.
2. Godlessness; immorality.
Atheism, in a broad sense, is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
An attempt to avoid the subject?
To be expected from an
snob.That is the 1 million dollar question..
Any presumption to know what is going on inside my head is "mind reading" and, in the words of Martin Luther, verboten. Please comply with the rules or refrain from posting to or about me.
then what is with the ad hominems?
There is always that final and best argument of waving the hands in the air and saying “it’s a MYSTERY!”.
See the difference is we know we have nothing to commend ourselves to God, that nothing we could do would deserve anything but hell.. all our righteousness is filthy bloody menstrual rags before a HOLY God
But you are still trying to change the topic
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