Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Your own church disagrees with you.
Congratulations.
Ever hear of the Cappadocian Fathers?
If you are talking about "our deeds" being our sins, then when it comes time for us to be judged, those who have placed their faith in Jesus Christ will be adjudicated "not guilty". We are clothed in the righteousness of Jesus Christ himself and not our own. Those who have not accepted Jesus Christ as savior, will be judged "guilty" and will pay the ultimate penalty for their sin which is eternal separation from God. Jesus said, "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." John 3:18.
The works we have done as Christians, will be judged at the Judgment Seat of Christ and will determine rewards or loss of rewards based upon the quality of those deeds - those based upon faith or not by faith - but we will still be saved so this judgment does not determine our destiny.
I don't know who started this or where it came from, but "divinity" can't actually have faith in the first place. (I know what some people are going to want to do... DON'T DO IT!)
The Person of Jesus Christ is Divine and NOT HUMAN. I repeat: Jesus Christ is not a human person. He is a Divine Person with a human nature, soul, will and intellect, united (that is, assumed) to the Divine Nature, Divine Will of the Divine Person who is Jesus Christ. Human emotions He had, as proper to His human nature, but faith... impossible.
I realize I may be preaching to the choir here, but someone started this diversion and it seems to have passed uncommented upon. Divinity can not lose faith because Divinity can not have faith.
I think it’s likely that the reason Hitchens and others target her for derision is because she has and does inspire so many.
Amen, excellent post!
And what did the church councils and church fathers base this dogma on?
Scripture.
AMEN! That is the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
I believe it was Stfassisi who “started” the discussion along the lines of “divinity.”
Yeah. Sure. Still pity them?
So, If I were you,I would expect to be tried since you seem to elevating yourself as if your faith is greater than someone like Mother Teresa who reached out to love the worst of human suffering
That is a crude, ugly and pathetic statement to make. A kind of threat. Shame on you. Those who caution others about speculative trials should look to their own darkened hearts.
My works are certainly less than Mother Teresa's lifetime of charity, but from all indications my faith in Christ is indeed greater than hers was for the last 50 years of her life because, according to her own words, she had none.
Nada. Zip.
I pity any monastic. He avoids the joy of family which God created for all His children; a joy which mirrors the love Christ has for his church.
Some call it sacrifice. And love for Him and His church is what they demonstrated.
They are called Church Fathers for a reason.
Pity for them is hubris.
I will give credit for a first: Pitying the Church Fathers who gave us the doctrine of the Trinity and the Nicene Creed.
Not to mention poor pitiful St. Paul.
What about these verses:
Isaiah 53
1 Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3 He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away. And who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was stricken.
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
11 After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light of life and be satisfied; by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
By their fruits you shall know them.
You have a faulty understanding of Catholic doctrine. Catholics believe all people have sinner, all fall short of the glory of God. Catholics believe Christ died to save humanity, but that not all of humanity would be saved. Catholics believe in the expiation of sin, which involves our own suffering as well as Christ’s suffering to die for us. Faith plays an important role in our religion, but so do good works. Catholics do not believe they would be saved without the shedding of Christ’s blood.
I agree
Also, I don’t think some understand or perhaps accept what monastic life is....
Mother is an example of Christs Love here on earth
Another Paul original. The Sinless one was made sin! Goodness. Jesus never said the Father made him sin for us.
So, then, was him praying just an act?
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