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To: stfassisi
Divinity cannot lose faith, but Mother Teresa says she lost hers

I don't know who started this or where it came from, but "divinity" can't actually have faith in the first place. (I know what some people are going to want to do... DON'T DO IT!)

The Person of Jesus Christ is Divine and NOT HUMAN. I repeat: Jesus Christ is not a human person. He is a Divine Person with a human nature, soul, will and intellect, united (that is, assumed) to the Divine Nature, Divine Will of the Divine Person who is Jesus Christ. Human emotions He had, as proper to His human nature, but faith... impossible.

I realize I may be preaching to the choir here, but someone started this diversion and it seems to have passed uncommented upon. Divinity can not lose faith because Divinity can not have faith.

7,504 posted on 09/28/2010 10:51:46 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: Legatus

Amen, excellent post!


7,506 posted on 09/28/2010 11:06:59 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Legatus

I believe it was Stfassisi who “started” the discussion along the lines of “divinity.”


7,509 posted on 09/28/2010 11:23:01 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Legatus; stfassisi
Human emotions He had, as proper to His human nature, but faith... impossible

So, then, was him praying just an act?

7,520 posted on 09/29/2010 3:31:30 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: Legatus
Divinity can not lose faith because Divinity can not have faith.

I actually thought of that, but it occurred to me it would be over the head of the Chief Reformer of the RF.

7,527 posted on 09/29/2010 4:37:43 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Legatus; kosta50
I "divinity" can't actually have faith in the first place.

Agreed.Which is why I said Divinity can't lose faith since it does not have it to lose

He is a Divine Person with a human nature, soul, will and intellect, united (that is, assumed) to the Divine Nature, Divine Will of the Divine Person who is Jesus Christ.

Correct.

From the Summa by Aquinas

Objection 1. It would seem that the Son is not equal to the Father in greatness. For He Himself said (John 14:28): "The Father is greater than I"; and the Apostle says (1 Corinthians 15:28): "The Son Himself shall be subject to Him that put all things under Him."

Reply to Objection 1. These words are to be understood of Christ's human nature, wherein He is less than the Father, and subject to Him; but in His divine nature He is equal to the Father. This is expressed by Athanasius, "Equal to the Father in His Godhead; less than the Father in humanity": and by Hilary (De Trin. ix): "By the fact of giving, the Father is greater; but He is not less to Whom the same being is given"; and (De Synod.): "The Son subjects Himself by His inborn piety"--that is, by His recognition of paternal authority; whereas "creatures are subject by their created weakness."

Equality is measured by greatness. In God greatness signifies the perfection of nature, as above explained (1, ad 1), and belongs to the essence. Thus equality and likeness in God have reference to the essence; nor can there be inequality or dissimilitude arising from the distinction of the relations. Wherefore Augustine says (Contra Maxim. iii, 13), "The question of origin is, Who is from whom? but the question of equality is, Of what kind, or how great, is he?" Therefore, paternity is theFather's dignity, as also the Father's essence: since dignity is something absolute, and pertains to the essence. As, therefore, the same essence, which in the Father is paternity, in the Son is filiation, so the same dignity which, in the Father is paternity, in the Son is filiation. It is thus true to say that the Son possesses whatever dignity the Father has; but we cannot argue--"the Father has paternity, therefore the Son has paternity," for there is a transition from substance to relation. For the Father and the Son have the same essence and dignity, which exist in the Father by the relation of giver, and in the Son by relation of receiver.

I realize I may be preaching to the choir here, but someone started this diversion

This happens when one stays up too late

7,531 posted on 09/29/2010 5:29:46 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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