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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: D-fendr
"Monastics did more than copying."

Some morons think monastics are priests!

7,421 posted on 09/28/2010 8:39:00 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Judith Anne
Here is what you are calling a wicked statement: "She lost her faith to the same extent Jesus lost His."

Yes, that is a wicked statement. Because Christ never Lost His faith. Do Roman Catholics even know why He spoke the words "Father why have thou forsaken me?" It was to fulfill the prophecy of the Psalms.

Why Did Christ say, "My God, my God, Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me?"

Psalms 22:1

"...My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?"

When Christ called out to God in this manner, clearly He was consciously quoting this Psalm as an illustration to all that would come after, that He was fulfilling this Old Testament prophecy. This is the key to understanding why the Lord would say this. Jesus Christ, as the living "Word of God" in the flesh, is the application of God's revealed will concerning the atonement for sin by the wrath of God poured out upon man. And His question in Psalms 22:1 of, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me," is answered in Psalms 22:3...

But Mother Teresa, by her own words, lost her faith in Jesus Christ completely. She did not believe in God, in Christ nor in prayer.

To compare the two is wicked.

7,422 posted on 09/28/2010 8:42:07 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: kosta50

;ing to 7422


7,423 posted on 09/28/2010 8:43:47 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: kosta50

or ping to 7422. It’s your choice. 8~)


7,424 posted on 09/28/2010 8:44:20 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne
"Wasn’t Calvin’s father an excommunicated thief?"

That too, but that only went into the shaping of Calvin's character. The real issue is that he was an accused sodomite who fled France under a cloud of suspicion. I only bring it up in the context of the double standard applied by the anti-Catholics. Where they are so quick to condemn Catholics they are reluctant to admit any problems in their own clergy and fiercely defensive of the sinless reputation of the fathers of the reformation.

7,425 posted on 09/28/2010 8:45:01 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Natural Law

Ping to 7422


7,426 posted on 09/28/2010 8:45:42 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Thank you for quoting those verses from John 10. Reading those for the first time over 40 years ago is how the Holy Spirit reached my heart for Christ. “I give unto them ETERNAL LIFE and they shall NEVER perish.”. Oh, glory to his holy name!


7,427 posted on 09/28/2010 8:45:46 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
So you're saying with a straight face that one can't comprehend an aging nun's letters without having read various old men who lived alone with other men?

This indicates you haven't comprehended much of anything I said on the matter, not even in terms of gender.

And, yes, I can say without fear of error that some haven't a clue what Mother Teresa is talking about in her letters - as evidenced by their posts on this thread.

things you list as the reason why monasteries are valuable fade into dust when compared to going out into the world and preaching the Gospel to all men everywhere.

My post on their writing and preaching (priests do preach) and teaching and converting others went right over your head I see.

Praise Benny Hinn! You could likely understand his letters without any problem.

7,428 posted on 09/28/2010 8:46:16 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Yes, that is a wicked statement. Because Christ never Lost His faith

Neither did Mother Teresa. That's the point. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I'm serious. Have you taken the ACT? Comprehension inadequacies like yours above show up on that test.

7,429 posted on 09/28/2010 8:47:03 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"But Mother Teresa, by her own words, lost her faith in Jesus Christ completely. She did not believe in God, in Christ nor in prayer."

That's not what her words say, but you would have to actually read what she wrote to know that. It would be a good idea to do that BEFORE you condemn her to hell. Doing otherwise is the true wickedness.

7,430 posted on 09/28/2010 8:51:42 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Natural Law

Seems a lot of folks got all their knowledge of monastics from the old Xerox ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IgH2M02xek


7,431 posted on 09/28/2010 8:53:01 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Judith Anne
Neither did Mother Teresa. That's the point.

No, the point is that Mother Teresa, in her own words, told us she had lost her faith. Period.

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I'm serious. Have you taken the ACT? Comprehension inadequacies like yours above show up on that test.

lol. Wow. So we're comparing SAT scores now? How about LSATs? And maybe a few alphabet tests I would wager you've never heard of. lol.

This isn't the first time a Roman Catholic doesn't appear to be able to understand the written word. Sadly, it won't be the last. It's systemic.

7,432 posted on 09/28/2010 8:55:48 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Natural Law

I’ve read whole chapters as excerpts from her book. She says she lost her faith. For the last 50 years of her life.

And I’ve ordered another copy since I can’t find the one I already have. I probably threw it out.


7,433 posted on 09/28/2010 8:57:49 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: boatbums
Amen! John is such wonderful Scripture, isn't it? Our entire faith and hope and life can be found in that book.

"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." -- John 16:33

Praise, God. As Christ promises, we are His. And we have been His from before the foundation of the world.

7,434 posted on 09/28/2010 9:02:11 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"No, the point is that Mother Teresa, in her own words, told us she had lost her faith. Period."

Thats prejudicial conjecture and not al all supported by the facts. You should at least read her book before putting your foot in your mouth.

7,435 posted on 09/28/2010 9:03:14 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"No, the point is that Mother Teresa, in her own words, told us she had lost her faith. Period."

Thats prejudicial conjecture and not at all supported by the facts. You should at least read her book before putting your foot in your mouth.

7,436 posted on 09/28/2010 9:03:23 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“Father why have thou forsaken me?” It was to fulfill the prophecy of the Psalms

You’re right on this,Dr E,but here is more in the typology beyond Psalms 22:1

Saint Augustine explains this further
From Blessed Augustine...

“Christ bearing humanity,setting a model for us,shows a certain private will,in which He figured both His will and ours,because He is the head and,as you know,as limbs(membra) we attached are attached to Him : Father,He said:”if it can be ,let this cup pass from me”(en. Ps.32.2.1.2.13)”- Saint Augustine


7,437 posted on 09/28/2010 9:05:29 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: D-fendr
You're certainly entitled to your appreciation of the monastic, cloistered, dank, woman-less life.

I prefer the life Christ outlined for His sheep -- marriage, family and His instruction to "go into all the world, and preach the Gospel to every creature."

7,438 posted on 09/28/2010 9:08:24 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"I’ve read whole chapters as excerpts from her book."

I don't believe you. Nothing you have posted hints at any actual knowledge of the contents or context of her letters or the conclusions of her confessor the Rev. Brian Kolodiejchuk.

7,439 posted on 09/28/2010 9:09:53 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: stfassisi

Amen. Nothing about Christ losing His faith in God, as Mother Teresa said she had done.


7,440 posted on 09/28/2010 9:10:04 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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