Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
No. Do you?
You've told us dozens of times you don't believe the Bible, so what difference does Greek make if even the Greek is predicated on error?
Faith has nothing to do with this. Besides, the Trinitarian dogma is not found in the Bible. And mistranslations lead to misconceptions, which is obvious when some of you begin to talk about a schizophrenic deity having multiple personalities.
It hasn’t made an impression in any version of the bible in any of the multitude of postings. Very sad.
You’re arguing against yourself again, Mark.
Of course it is.
Not only is the Trinity alluded to in Scripture, but what do you think the church fathers were basing their opinions on?
The Jerusalem phone book?
And you've just proven my point.
That's an interesting hypothesis lacking any proof. I am of course under no obligation to believe you on your word.
As Paul said, "whatsoever is not of faith is sin."
And sinful Christians are a plenty.
Worth repeating.
Eloi, Eloi, lama sabach-thani?
If Mother Teresa is now expected to live to a higher standard than Christ Himself what hope is there for you?
That is not true. As Alex Murphy has linked to many times, there are proportionately four times as many sexual abuse claims made against RCs than against Protestants.
And the claims against the RCC are overwhelmingly homosexual transgressions committed by priests, while the Protestant offenses are mostly heterosexual and involve church staff, janitors and volunteers.
Yea, Robo Christians.
RN-”The Father predestinated the plan and the Son and Spirit agreed [sic] to the plan.”
K-”Welcome to polytheism Calvinist style! God the Father is “conferencing” with the Son and the Spirit! I used to think they were Triniatrian Christian (at least in theory). Now I suspect they may be cultists in disguise.”
The Triune God seems not to be eternal and is movable according to the Calvinist
So why did Jesus despair when he said "Why have forsaken me?"
Here is what you are calling a wicked statement: "She lost her faith to the same extent Jesus lost His."
That means that she did not lose her faith. I doubt that anyone who has not been through trials that tempt them to despair can possibly understand Mother Teresa, or Christ on the Cross.
People who live their lives with everyone around them serving their shallow whims cannot understand what it is to be in so much pain they cry out, or to be hungry enough to steal, or be humbled enough to cry. So it's clear to me that anyone arrogant enough to judge Mother Teresa, or to doubt she is in heaven, has lead a very pampered, shallow, imperious life. Like the rich man Christ spoke about, those judges will end up in hell, begging Lazarus for a drop of water to cool their tongues.
What are the [sic} for?
Monastics did more than copying.
In the discussion about Mother Teresa, I referenced monastic writers whom she was very familiar with as necessary to understanding Mother Teresa’s writing. That was their relevance to that discussion. Monastics have been among the greatest influences in Christian theology and on practice and on other’s conversion to Christianity - as I mentioned in the case of St. Augustine.
The necessity for monasteries today is the same as it was in the past. There’s a variety of functions. Priests come out of monasteries, lay people go on retreats at monasteries. A life of prayer has value, and monastics pray for us and for the world. Different monastic communities have different functions, different rules, are organized differently, interact differently, provide different services. Some are schools. Some monastics are renowned scholars, theologians, writers… They are a place of prayer and study and practice and devotion and these have real effect on others outside their sphere. Some have produced well-known recordings of Christian music.
This is a short list of the value of monasticism, things that you might, I stress might, approve of.
Catholics say the darnedest things.......
It's really something to be pitied that they have nothing of substance to get Protestantism on so they have to make things up to misrepresent and accuse us of.
Yes, hyperbole is their FRiend.
It’s more than a friend.
It’s critical to their whole case against Protestantism.
So you're saying with a straight face that one can't comprehend an aging nun's letters without having read various old men who lived alone with other men?
lol. Does her publisher know this?
The threadbare things you list as the reason why monasteries are valuable fade into dust when compared to going out into the world and preaching the Gospel to all men everywhere.
Scripture does not say "blessed are the feet of the monks." It does, however, bless the feet of those who proclaim Christ risen so that those who are His will hear and believe to the saving of their souls.
Music and wine incidental.
I really don't care what false statistics you, Alex or Calvin himself links to. Calvin himself was an accused sodomite but you readily dismiss that and just as readily accept your assertions about the pervasiveness of the problem in the Church. The truth is the truth and, frankly, your standards for veracity are sorely lacking.
Wasn’t Calvin’s father an excommunicated thief?
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