Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[Hank Kerchief]

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

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Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)

[boatbums]

What’s even worse is the people who misunderstand this and do nothing when they see a poor beggar on the street and say to themselves ....”Works mean nothing” and teach the same things to their children. This is true coldness of hearts toward fellow man

The only people I have ever seen treat their fellow man with such indifference are the one who believe in "karma" and think a poor starving, disease ridden child is just payback for misdeeds in their previous life. I wouldn't try to pawn this philosophy off onto Calvinists. It is the true Christians who have gone into those parts of the world and ministered to them and have done so for thousands of years. When we help others we are doing it as unto Christ himself and that SHOULD be the motive.

[kosta50]

And if it stopped there, it would be remiss. But it continues...

Neverhteless, it still makes the original claim that God has no body wrong.

[boatbums]

I don’t think anybody has ridiculed anyone about what they do in their private lives that is between them and God. Now I must confess, I did giggle a little when Bill O’Reilly left the smudge on (over his makeup, yet) when he was doing his show on Ash Wednesday night. Was there a little sanctimony in doing that? I kinda thought so, but he DID get his reward already.

[OpusatFR]

I get it now.

Doing one’s anonymous, comfy-chair, coffee-sipping muffin munching blogging on an anonymous internet bulletin board to anonymous posters is missionary work and PERSECUTION if not acknowledged, because in the words of the this group of Prottys, their work is not seen by men.

Oh, brother. This gets worse and worse.

[Natural Law]

"Who made, after an "exhaustive" process, the Saints you pray to?"

The Catholic Church does not make saints, it merely recognizes some. The listing is neither complete or infallible.

[Natural Law]

" I wonder why folks from the OPC and other groups take a Unitarian as brethern considering the UU's stance that they deny the Trinity and the divinity of Christ."

The unifying theme of Protestantism is anti-Catholicism.

[Running On Empty]

Please clarify this post

Since it was offered on the open thread for all to read, I think it would benefit by clarification.

[count-your-change]

What is it that needs clarification? Please be specific as it seems fairly clear to me and I haven’t heard from the person it was addressed to yet.

[Running On Empty]

“I haven’t heard from the person it was addressed to.”

Then I can wait.

[RnMomof7]

Sadly, this exercise also illustrates that for Roman Catholics, faith in Christ is NOT the evidence of God's grace nor a requirement for our salvation. "Good works" are all that matter to the Roman Catholic. Thus, Rome can say with a straight face that muslims are saved just like Christians are saved - by their own labor. Christ's labor on the cross is tangential to salvation. It's a path, not the path.

Excellent post

If, as Catholics believe, Christ only opened the door to heaven so you could work your way thru ..Mother Teresa is there.. If what the scriptures say is true, however, she is eternally separated from the God whose existence she doubted for eternity along with all those she failed to present the gospel to

[RnMomof7]

Rev. Kolodiejchuk maintains that Mother Teresa did not suffer “a real doubt of faith,” but that, on the contrary, her agonizing demonstrates her faith in God’s reality.

How? If I do not have an assurance of God, how does prove I really believe in Him? That is double talk

Mother Tersea lived out a life of unconditional love

We are not saved by OUR love, even the heathans love... we are only saved by Jesus Christ

Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

[kosta50]

If what the scriptures say is true, however, she is eternally separated from the God whose existence she doubted for eternity along with all those she failed to present the gospel to

Ah, God doesn't need to judge anyone. He has Protestants judging the whole world for him. They know who's in hell and who's in heaven.

[Legatus]

Has anyone "here" actually read the entire book or are all the opinions being expressed here based on excerpts found online?

I haven't read it, only excerpts, I've ordered it from Amazon though. Given what passes for "research" around here I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out everything is sourced from Christopher Hitchens.

Oh, and blame Quix for this. Next up: WEBDINGS!

Or not... rats!

[Quix]

Uhhhhh . . . what book are we talking about?

[metmom]

And aren’t you just now judging Protestants?

[kosta50]

And aren’t you just now judging Protestants?

LOL! What sophsitry!

[Legatus]

Uhhhhh . . . what book are we talking about?

The book that has half the forum condemning Mother Teresa to hell for losing her faith: "Come Be My Light". How much of all of this is based on Christopher Hitchen's "analysis" and cherry picked quotes and how much is based on having actually read the book?

From all accounts Mother Teresa wrote thousands of letters, many of which were destroyed at her request. Some letters have survived and some of those were reproduced in the book and then Christopher Hitchens (who has a serious bee in his bonnet about her) went to town on them.

Reading the reviews at Amazon gives a dramatically different spin on the contents and so it's in my cart now... along with several books written by Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict, thanks mainly to people who appear to be misrepresenting what they contain.

So the question remains... is Mother Teresa being condemned to hell based on excerpts? Is that wise? Should we not say "I haven't read the book, I can't judge based on quotes selected by an intoxicated atheist."

[metmom]

I’ll take that as a *Yes*.

[Quix]

I’m very wary of assigning anyone to hell.

God alone knows His transactions with them at the moment of death.

On the other hand, it is, imho, extremely hazardous to not be certain that one is confessed up, prayed up, forgiven up, forgivING up and ready to go 24/7.

Doubts in general are human.

For a believer to doubt God’s existence etc. . . . is pushing it more than I’d want to.

[kosta50]

I’ll take that as a *Yes*.

LOL! That's not a "yes" because what I said was not a judgment but simply an observation of fact — i.e. others openly judging who's in hell and who's in heaven.