Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Former Ctholic, as I recall. Poor guy.
I may have inappropriately referred to you as a bitter old **** in private a correspondence, but no one would consider that loony.
or ask questions and see how long you last
that post is making the thread about individual freepers and against the rules. It appears that some people do nothing but patrol for offenses
that is making the thread about an individual freeper
So her husband is a FReeper? Cool. Let’s say Mother T is one too, then we won’t have to read slander about her...
Yes, I think you are right.
My apologies.
I can do better than that.
I don’t patrol, however.
I just read posts and if I think I would like to respond, I do.
Ping
No. She has posted that he is a former Catholic. Not a FReeper.
She gave the information.
She gave the information.
Yes and a few days ago, another poster gave out information and regretted it. Everyone who responded was admonished by the RM. Is it now ok to attack a Protestant poster but not a Catholic one?
Sorry, I did not see the admonishment by the RM.
Ok folks, where’s the discussion?
I’ll throw out a question for anyone who cares to reply:
Would you believe in Jesus (in the biblical sense) if you were not rewarded with heaven for doing so? Why or why not?
It would be much more accurate to say, "Nonsense. We know exactly what Roman Catholics think because we tell them what they think every day."
I thought Catholics were taking over the world? With or without the muslims.
than the accusation in 6,745 is just more falsehood - amazing! ;)
Usually, my posts are filled with Scripture, Church Fathers and/or specifics. But thank you for confirming yet again that you got it wrong yet again.
Is it because you have no point other than to deride your Scriptural opposition with name-calling?
I have plenty of Scripture-generated opposition to the religions of man-generated crazies and opportunists that are the fruit of the Reformation. Thank you for noticing it. If you ever decide to convert to Christianity, I will do my best to help that journey. Hint: the swim across the Tiber or the journey East are not difficult once one decides to give up the diabolical religions of Reformation man.
Uh, oh... ALL "...men shall rise again with their bodies..."
What does ALL mean? Are their exceptions for those you (men) declare as "Saints"? Is there an exception for "Bodily Assumption" as declared by mere men?
The original Catholic Creeds:
1. I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth.
2. I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord.
3. He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary.
4. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried.
5. He descended into hell. On the third day he rose again.
6. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
7. He will come again to judge the living and the dead.
8. I believe in the Holy Spirit,
9. the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints,
10. the forgiveness of sins, 11. the resurrection of the body,
12. and life everlasting. Amen.
The Nicene Creed
We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father. Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation, he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
It means that we will all be resurrected. The Nicene Creed is the Creed professed by all nominal Christians; the Apostles' Creed dates back to the second century. I am not aware of exceptions.
I doubt it about Ted. I recently posted from Luke 6 about works. If you like, I can post it again.
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