Nonsense. I refuse to believe that she would accuse anyone else of lying. The good Dr. E. would never do anything like that. No, I believe that she is only watching out for us.
Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Well it should be. The abbreviated history "according to Mark" is as useful as an old Orphan Annie comic strip.
Your needlessly contentious and rude remarks like the one last night and the one above are the norm for you these days and so they're not unexpected.
Remember this: THERE IS NO TEACHING OF THE RCC WHICH IS SO CLEAR IT CANNOT BE DENIED, MODIFIED, OR RE-INTERPRETED AS REQUIRED.
Are you implying that Christ was ever anything other than a co-equal member of the trinity and not omnipotent? Where in Scripture is that asserted? It sounds pretty extra scriptura to me.
That may be, but the comment, “Perhaps muslims aren’t such an enemy of Rome afteraall. Perhaps muslims serve a purpose of Rome by further destroying people and cultures which are not under Rome’s control” —
That comment is the same as saying Catholics use Moslems to kill people that the Church does not control.”
And that is really over the line. It’s one of the most malicious and false things I’ve ever read here. It disrespects our armed forces, our men and women serving in the military, those who have been killed by the enemy.
Remember this: THERE IS NO TEACHING OF THE RCC WHICH IS SO CLEAR IT CANNOT BE DENIED, MODIFIED, OR RE-INTERPRETED AS REQUIRED.
Needlessly contentious? Rude?
Are you surprised that someone would answer you in the same tone that you use on the thread? Do you think you are owed some extraordinary courtesy, when your remarks show none? Nevertheless, we try.
Only in the Tim Burton version of her life.
Unless you possess the ability to mind read en masse you would have no way of knowing what Catholics think. You would be better served if you simply stated "I think".
How can Protestants expect Roman Catholics to understand their posts when RCs don't understand Scripture?
Pray for ears to hear.
Further, the difference between RC apologists and Protestants on these threads is that RCs make up loony stuff and tag Protestants with believing it, while Protestants point to actual practices and rites and beliefs Roman Catholics hold and then demolish those errors by the truth of Scripture.
If this were my primary example of “Christians” I’d head for the door.
If my priest spent any time insulting other ‘Christian denominations’ during Mass, I’d leave and never look back.
It’s sad what passes for christian witness hereon. More stumbling blocks.
When those who have never gotten up off their fat arses to help anyone belittle Mother Teresa it is time to simply ignore then as "crude and looney" and irrelevant.
(If anyone objects to my use of the word "arse" as potty language I challenge them to defend its perpetually permitted alternate spelling "RC" as an offensive term for Catholics in this forum.)
...BY ANTI-CATHOLICS.
If you are going to use a quote, use the entire quote.
Don’t be confused, several of the non-Catholics on this thread ARE NOT CHRISTIANS. They profess to be, but they are not. They are willing agents of Satan and will stop at nothing to advance his mission to destroy Christianity.
By definition, history and example Protestants take their identity not from what they positively affirm, but rather from that which they denounce.
The most virulent have taken their "Protestation" of the Catholic Church and made it the center of their faith. It is the fulcrum against which every issue of dogma and faith and every historical fact is leveraged. Whatever reflects positively on the Church and whatever the Church affirms they must denounce or lose their identity. It makes them small, petty, pitiful wretches. They do not blame themselves or their beliefs for their fringe status, but rather blame the Church for not accepting them as the intellectual and spiritual equals of the Fathers.
They huddle in their shrinking sects and cults working for the demise of that one entity that stands in the path of their undeserved parity, the Catholic Church.
Fortunately, they are nothing more than an irritant for those who permit them to be.
Who told you about Mother Teresa's Calvin's salvation?
Anti Catholicism is their Golden Calf. It consumes them into darkness
Nonsense. I refuse to believe that she would accuse anyone else of lying. The good Dr. E. would never do anything like that. No, I believe that she is only watching out for us.
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