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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: D-fendr; HarleyD; kosta50; maryz; bkaycee; Cronos
Theology is reasoning about the Divine. It is useful, but incomplete. God can't be drawn down fully into reason. Cronos has posted about the holding of contradictions both fully in the mind. When we reduce the Divine into reason, often that is what results - two contradictions

The Jews have a better way of saying it — paradox!

: )

6,621 posted on 09/21/2010 8:51:40 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: kosta50
The Jews have a better way of saying it — paradox!

That's it! Much better. But it's from the greek, of course. :)

In the West, I think "mystery" is used instead, but that doesn't quite capture what we're talking about. Paradox does.

thanks..

6,622 posted on 09/21/2010 9:29:54 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: RnMomof7

“...unless God did a mighty act this lady was lost”

I believe that God was doing a mighty act all along.

“I know she was unsaved”......

We can’t know whether anyone is saved or unsaved—from one minute to the next. That knowledge is not given to us. And praise God for that—or our behavior would be even worse than it already is.


6,623 posted on 09/21/2010 10:26:03 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: HarleyD
There is only God's will and man's will. God's will is good. Man's will is bad (to do the things of God). The concept of "free will" is the interjection of a third choice and implies man is capable of doing the things of God (e.g. man can choose God, man can do the works of God, man can behave and be very good). There is nothing in scripture that would back this claim of free will up.

Every Reformer that I have read will readily insist that man has a will (even Calvin). That will is held in bondage and, once free, it is capable of doing the works of God. But it is only when man's will is free can it be guided by the Holy Spirit to do the things of God. This is the technically accruate description of what happens. But there is no free will by which man can do things pleasing to God. It is impossible.

AMEN, Harleyd!

Our eyes are so glued to our own achievements that it is difficult to pry ourselves away from the concept that we are free and unfettered and capable of our own righteousness.

Free will was always denied by the apostles and the early church and various church fathers. With the influence of Gnosticism in the third and fourth centuries, men slowly discarded the idea that God sustains all things, and men's minds filled themselves up with their own desires rather than God's determinism.

The reformers, as you say, returned the church to the sound doctrine of predestination -- something Rome has always denied because if God controls this life, then obviously Rome and its magisterium cannot.

6,624 posted on 09/22/2010 12:12:39 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Our eyes are so glued to our own achievements that it is difficult to pry ourselves away from the concept that we are free and unfettered and capable of our own righteousness.

It's probably not too late to get into an RCIA class.

6,625 posted on 09/22/2010 12:24:09 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: maryz; RnMomof7
Christ could not have actually thought God the Father had forsaken Him since God is God.

Christ's anguish was expressed here in order to fulfill the prophecy of Isaiah. As Calvin explains in his commentary on Matthew 27:46...

"46. And about the ninth hour Jesus cried. Though in the cry which Christ uttered a power more than human was manifested, yet it was unquestionably drawn from him by intensity of sorrow. And certainly this was his chief conflict, and harder than all the other tortures, that in his anguish he was so far from being soothed by the assistance or favor of his Father, that he felt himself to be in some measure estranged from him. For not only did he offer his body as the price of our reconciliation with God, but. in his soul also he endured the punishments due to us; and thus he became, as Isaiah speaks, a man of sorrows, (53:3.) Those interpreters are widely mistaken who, laying aside this part of redemption, attended solely to the outward punishment of the flesh; for in order that Christ might satisfy for us, it was necessary that he should be placed as a guilty person at the judgment-seat of God. Now nothing is more dreadful than to feel that God, whose wrath is worse than all deaths, is the Judge. When this temptation was presented to Christ, as if, having God opposed to him, he were already devoted to destruction, he was seized with horror, which would have been sufficient to swallow up a hundred times all the men in the world; but by the amazing power of the Spirit he achieved the victory. Nor is it by hypocrisy, or by assuming a character, that he complains of having been forsaken by the Father. Some allege that he employed this language in compliance with the opinion of the people, but this is an absurd mode of evading the difficulty; for the inward sadness of his soul was so powerful and violent, that it forced him to break out into a cry. Nor did the redemption which he accomplished consist solely in what was exhibited to the eye, (as I stated a little ago,) but having undertaken to be our surety, he resolved actually to undergo in our room the judgment of God.

6,626 posted on 09/22/2010 12:30:12 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: maryz; RnMomof7

And thus Chesterton was wrong. God did not forsake God. His error in reading Scripture, however, is just another example of Rome’s attraction to the maudlin.


6,627 posted on 09/22/2010 12:33:06 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne

Thank God for small favors.


6,628 posted on 09/22/2010 12:33:46 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne
A picture is worth at least 500 words...


6,629 posted on 09/22/2010 12:36:02 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: MarkBsnr

Uh-uh-uh. Mind-reading again, Mark.

See post 6629 for the answer...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2578704/posts?page=6629#6629


6,630 posted on 09/22/2010 12:39:18 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne; RnMomof7

Mother Teresa said she doubted the existence of God and had doubted the existence of God for decades before her death.

She was a hard-working, unhappy, frightened and confused woman whose faith did not sustain her.


6,631 posted on 09/22/2010 12:42:13 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: MarkBsnr

I have no “problems with the Incarnation,” Mark. It’s not that difficult a concept to grasp if faith has been received. God choose a simple Jewish girl to carry to term the Christ child. After she had completed her task, her part in Scripture is diminished considerably to the point where Jesus corrects a woman who is looking for his mother when He tells her that believers are His real family.

I do have problems with elevating this simple Jewish girl to Queen of the Universe” and “wife of the Holy Spirit” and “co-Redeemer” and “Dispensatrix of all graces” and “Mediator between God and men”...

All men will have to answer for the idolatry that remains in their hearts. And some will have a lot of explaining to do.


6,632 posted on 09/22/2010 12:48:22 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Rather only faith sustained her.


6,633 posted on 09/22/2010 12:52:06 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: RnMomof7
One does not need to believe in the wrath of God to experience it

Chillingly accurate.

I wonder what Catholics think Christ suffered on the cross or why He did it..

They think He's a fairly good example of suffering so they inflict as much pain as possible on themselves and others in order to become as good and as suffering as Him.

6,634 posted on 09/22/2010 12:52:10 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Mother Teresa said she doubted the existence of God and had doubted the existence of God for decades before her death.

Okay.

6,635 posted on 09/22/2010 12:55:36 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I do have problems with elevating this simple Jewish girl to Queen of the Universe” and “wife of the Holy Spirit” and “co-Redeemer” and “Dispensatrix of all graces” and “Mediator between God and men”...

We all know this about you. You have said the same thing in many different ways, many different times for many years. Your problems with Mary do not bother me. As far as I am concerned, any "simple Jewish girl" that God chose to be the Mother of His only begotten Son IS the Queen of the Universe. When you belittle her, you belittle God AND Christ.

6,636 posted on 09/22/2010 1:00:42 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
They think He's a fairly good example of suffering so they inflict as much pain as possible on themselves and others in order to become as good and as suffering as Him.

Is that what you truly believe?

6,637 posted on 09/22/2010 1:02:16 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne

Good night, Judith.


6,638 posted on 09/22/2010 1:02:57 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne
It is not belittling to refrain from calling another human being a "co-redeemer."

It is Christianity.

Try it.

6,639 posted on 09/22/2010 1:04:51 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne

Therefore her faith did not sustain her. For decades.


6,640 posted on 09/22/2010 1:05:23 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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