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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: bronx2; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7

Nor did I say anything about civility. That’s not what my post addressed and it’s very telling that that is what you interpreted it as.

But your changing the subject is hardly surprising.


6,501 posted on 09/20/2010 4:07:28 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee
Are you prepared to use this same logic to justify abortion? And assuming you aren't, why not?

Wag, the man will always chose what ever their preference is.. and as we see today, the natural man's preference today is all too often SELF.

The question is did God foreknow that the woman would chose the abortion before the child was conceived.. and the answer to that is of course, God is omniscient ..He knows the beginning from the end.. and that sin is figured into the plan of God

6,502 posted on 09/20/2010 4:09:24 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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To: metmom
I doubt it.

Me too ...LOL

6,503 posted on 09/20/2010 4:11:13 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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To: RnMomof7; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; Campion; don-o; Mrs. Don-o; ...
The question is did God foreknow that the woman would chose the abortion before the child was conceived.. and the answer to that is of course, God is omniscient ..He knows the beginning from the end.. and that sin is figured into the plan of God

Then is abortion, like other forms of birth control, "relatively unimportant in the scheme of God's plans"?

6,504 posted on 09/20/2010 4:12:46 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; Campion; don-o; Mrs. Don-o; ...
Your hypothetical is based on fallacy,

I know, that was intentional.

6,505 posted on 09/20/2010 4:14:47 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: bronx2

Ah to be in the once saved club.


6,506 posted on 09/20/2010 4:23:28 PM PDT by Jaded (I realized that after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F)
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To: wagglebee
Then is abortion, like other forms of birth control, "relatively unimportant in the scheme of God's plans"?

it is a sin, and will be judged as one .. is it unimportant to Gods plan? In a sense because he has known for all eternity that the woman would murder her child, but I believe that abortion is a part of Gods judgement on our country (Romans 1) It lessens the value of life and of God's creation .. When we become a society that murders our unborn and kills the sick and old, God then is dismissed as having no relevance in life and death.

6,507 posted on 09/20/2010 4:29:58 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; bronx2; RnMomof7
You asked me what kind of contraception I used. That is an idiotic, puerile question that might be asked by someone who's not yet reached voting age.

You're being far too generous in your assessment of his maturity level. That kind of question really deserves an answer that would not only get you kicked off the RF, but would likely earn you a time off from FR in general.

The Catholic obsession with sex and the private lives of their membership and even those who aren't members is mind-boggling. What control freaks.

6,508 posted on 09/20/2010 4:30:39 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Jaded
Ah to be in the once saved club.

There is open admissions right now..the entry fee has been paid by Jesus Christ, all that is necessary that you know you are a sinner and and believe he paid your fee and you too can join..:)

6,509 posted on 09/20/2010 4:32:51 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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To: kosta50
I was just about to reply to Mom's post when I noticed yours being spot on. The East most certainly believes in the perpetual dignity and sinless purity of Mary as long as she lived on earth.

The the Bible lied when it states that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God and that there is none that are righteous.

Nobody is without sin. Mary wasn't or she wouldn't have recognized her need for a savior.

6,510 posted on 09/20/2010 4:33:05 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
The Catholic obsession with sex and the private lives of their membership and even those who aren't members is mind-boggling. What control freaks.

They should worry as much about the clergy

6,511 posted on 09/20/2010 4:34:05 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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To: metmom

Everyman/women their own pope: “Nobody is without sin”. You have the unmitigated audacity to write this tripe and exercise faulty interpretative knowledge of scripture when you have ostensibly refused to acknowledge christian friendship thereby disavowing belief in Christianity.

Either you are or are not a christian. Remember well Lk 12:9 and Mt 10:33 before replying.

God have mercy on your soul


6,512 posted on 09/20/2010 4:45:18 PM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: RnMomof7
There is open admissions right now

Ok, I'm back to "you don't believe in double predestination." Correct?

6,513 posted on 09/20/2010 4:47:58 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: metmom; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg
"God does indeed open and close the womb. I’ve know people who’ve used various contraceptives and gotten pregnant anyway and people who’ve tried to have a family for years and either never had one or had only one."

Excuse me, but you three takling about sex just made me throw up in my mouth.

6,514 posted on 09/20/2010 5:03:31 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: D-fendr
Ok, I'm back to "you don't believe in double predestination." Correct?

LOL LOL... ya never give up do ya?

6,515 posted on 09/20/2010 5:04:44 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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To: Natural Law
Excuse me, but you three takling about sex just made me throw up in my mouth.

So did you swallow it ???

6,516 posted on 09/20/2010 5:06:01 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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To: bronx2
Everyman/women their own pope:

Considering some of the popes your church has tainting its past....

“Nobody is without sin”. You have the unmitigated audacity to write this tripe and exercise faulty interpretative knowledge of scripture

What faulty interpretative knowledge of Scripture?

How about these verses.....

Romans 3:10 As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;

Romans 3:22-24 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

1 John 1:10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.

Everybody sins. Everybody sinned, even Mary. The only sinless one was Jesus because He did not have a human father to pass the sin nature down to Him.

If the Catholic church is teaching that Mary was without sin, it is teaching something contrary to the truth of Scripture. It is completely unsupportable by Scripture. It is nothing more than a fable fabricated by the Catholic church for God alone knows what reason.

6,517 posted on 09/20/2010 5:07:47 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Natural Law

I don’t believe you.

Especially in light of some of the comments to be seen in YOUR posting history.


6,518 posted on 09/20/2010 5:09:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Natural Law; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg

Poor baby.

Have we offended your delicate sensibilities?

Besides, we’re not talking about sex. You reveal a lot about yourself in the presumptions you make.


6,519 posted on 09/20/2010 5:11:20 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Nope. Just abide by the rules and everyone will benefit.

Just abide by the rules yourself.

6,520 posted on 09/20/2010 5:27:52 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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