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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


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To: Legatus; Dr. Eckleburg
I am a horrible example of a faithful Catholic because I know what a good Catholic should be like, or rather WHO a good Catholic should be like. So the question is, What should a good Protestant be like... or even who?

Martin Luther created the archetype and the process of creating one's own religion by simply looking in the mirror and writing down what he thought he saw.

Given that we are on approximately the tenth generation of Protestant evolution, the glass appears to be increasingly warped. Christianity as practiced by especially the newer, or the newer evolving Protestant churches is simply the slapping together of selected Scripture with the repudiation of the Christian faith and the Church Fathers, except, again, for cherry picked phrases and sentences that support the incidental beliefs of the moment.

Calvinists refuse the inclusionary verses of Scripture, relying on terms such as 'elect' to somehow include themselves in a select group, while feeling superior to those excluded. Those who refuse to embrace paedobaptism, the same. And the Eucharist, and icons, and relics, and veneration of saints...

My friend, you have opened up yourself to descriptions of past hurts. It is not that which condemns you in the eyes of the anti Catholics, it is the fact that you are an unashamed Catholic apologist. And that is the worst condemnation of all to many of those here.

6,181 posted on 09/19/2010 12:27:53 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: RnMomof7
The hopelessness of a works based, man-made religion:

Romans 8: 8

So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

6,182 posted on 09/19/2010 12:33:54 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Running On Empty
I don’t mention age in my tagline.

True, but you have mentioned you age within the threads...

6,183 posted on 09/19/2010 12:34:17 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Gamecock
What separates Rome from Christianity is, well Rome. The same Rome that schmoozes with Muslims calls us heretics.

It's strange how Catholics just overlook things like this...

6,184 posted on 09/19/2010 12:36:41 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: bronx2
No, I am referencing those lost souls who bask in the sinful pride of private interpretation instead of relying on the indwelling of the Holy Spirit to guide their souls to eternal salvation.

But yet those in your religion are the Kings of private interpretation...Just look at your catechism...Look at your encyclicals...Look at your so-called councils...

6,185 posted on 09/19/2010 12:40:05 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Judith Anne
And, OR, I am not in the habit of engaging with you, so I will return to my silence where you are concerned. I have no doubt that you will make up something personal about me concerning that.

Won't be long and you won't have anyone to talk to... :)

6,186 posted on 09/19/2010 12:45:25 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: OLD REGGIE; bkaycee; Natural Law; Mad Dawg; metmom; RnMomof7; Running On Empty
Simply put, papal infallibility is thanks to the grace of the Holy Spirit when
  1. the Pope solemnly declares i.e. TEACHES
  2. a teaching on faith or morals as being contained in divine revelation, or at least being intimately connected to divine revelation, he, under the Holy Spirit's protection is preserved from even the possibility of theological, dogmatic error.

    Pope Honorius did NOT teach Monothelitism in any way, as a solemn teaching to the Church.

    Honorius' failing was that he did not condemn the followers of Monothelitism --> he basically said "let's keep quiet and not support either side as that will only cause mischeif"("on account of the simplicity of man and to avoid controversies, we must, as I have already said, define neither one nor two operations in the mediator between God and man"

    Hence there is no question of Honorius' papal infallibility

    The council rightly ANATHEMIZED Honorius because Honorius failed to be a bishop and teach against the heresy

6,187 posted on 09/19/2010 12:45:30 PM PDT by Cronos (This Church is holy, the one Church, the true Church, the Catholic Church-St.Augustine)
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To: OLD REGGIE
A claim which begins with "All Protestants" is necessarily boloney

Maybe it's just salami or maybe it's what people say when they have no answers.

I don't answer stupid questions

Ah, Christian charity at its best.

6,188 posted on 09/19/2010 12:45:51 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: Iscool

But yet those in your religion are the Kings of private interpretation...Just look at your catechism...Look at your encyclicals...Look at your so-called councils...


ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

It’s interesting that none of the usual complicit folks are touching the Vatican cheering on the “ET’s are elligible for Salvation through Christ” meme that is increasingly trotted out with more and more frequency and umph.

No doubt that will involve a LOT more private interpretation of the magicsterical bureaucratic power-mongers in Rome.


6,189 posted on 09/19/2010 12:50:04 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: MarkBsnr; Legatus; OLD REGGIE; 1000 silverlings; RnMomof7; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; ...
My friend, you have opened up yourself to descriptions of past hurts.

That is key. He has "opened himself up." No one has done that to him. And yet he refuses to explain why he says a book so frazzled him he couldn't touch anyone for 14 years.

You've got to admit, that's a mighty large paper cut.

With absolutely NO EXPLANATION as to why it occurred.

Don't blame us if it's difficult to take someone's opinion of something if they don't say why they hold that opinion.

Calvinists refuse the inclusionary verses of Scripture

Calvinists believe the entire Scriptures, unlike Rome which utilizes a very selective thesaurus.

Martin Luther created the archetype and the process of creating one's own religion by simply looking in the mirror and writing down what he thought he saw.

lol. Luther didn't "create" anything. He recognized the Gospel even though Rome had worked to pervert and bury it for centuries.

What Luther saw as his reflection in that mirror was not the pale and pious representation of men's inherent goodness, but the face of a sinner, broken and weary and ultimately consumed with gratitude for the free, merciful gift of Christ's righteousness within him.

"The human will is placed between God and Satan like a beast of burden. If God rides it, it wills and goes where God wills; if Satan rides it, it wills and goes where Satan wills. Nor can it choose to run to either of the two riders, but the riders themselves contend for the possession of the beast." -- Martin Luther, "On the Bondage of the Will."

6,190 posted on 09/19/2010 12:57:00 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: bronx2
"No, I am referencing those lost souls who bask in the sinful pride of private interpretation instead of relying on the indwelling of the Holy Spirit to guide their souls to eternal salvation."

Too many Protestants wrongly conclude that the voices in their head is the Holy Spirit.

6,191 posted on 09/19/2010 12:58:13 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: kosta50; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; D-fendr
"They realized what unites the Christian is faith in Christ"

Does that include the LDS

Mormons believe Jesus is the son of God, but they do not believe Jesus is God.

That would put them outside the historic, orthodox definition of "Christian."

6,192 posted on 09/19/2010 1:02:14 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Mormons actually believe in another Christ, not the biblical one. JW’s believe that Jesus is one of many gods. Other groups don’t believe in Christ’s saving power. Yet, for reasons maybe known only to them, they want to be recognized as Christians.


6,193 posted on 09/19/2010 1:06:24 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Iscool
Those in my fellowship represent the Faithful Remnant who are in the line of apostolic succession established by Jesus.

Most objective historians attest to this historical fact notwithstanding the revisionist contorted history subscribed to by the reformist cults. Yes, Jesus sends us the Holy Spirit who speaks in an undivided voice through the magisterium.

The others only possess the self center self serving spiritually bankrupt interpretations whose private thoughts may well be guided by the father of all lies.

Trust only in Jesus.

6,194 posted on 09/19/2010 1:07:37 PM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"That would put them outside the historic, orthodox definition of "Christian.""

Would you then contend that all non-Trinitarians are not Christians?

6,195 posted on 09/19/2010 1:09:35 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Iscool; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; OLD REGGIE; RnMomof7
The same Rome that schmoozes with Muslims calls us heretics.

So I wonder what the official position of the Catholic church is now. Is their god and allah one and the same?

6,196 posted on 09/19/2010 1:10:41 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg

Mormons look to Joseph Smith to save them “in this dispensation.” No one goes to heaven who cannot give him the official password.


6,197 posted on 09/19/2010 1:12:55 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Gamecock
"The same Rome that schmoozes with Muslims calls us heretics."

"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only bad and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

- Pope Benedict XVI, The Regensburg Lecture, Sept 12, 2006

6,198 posted on 09/19/2010 1:17:32 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Natural Law; Gamecock; Iscool; Dr. Eckleburg

but didn’t he backtrack and even apologize later? When they wiggled their head chopping swords at him?


6,199 posted on 09/19/2010 1:19:29 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; D-fendr
Does that include the LDS and the JW?

Did you not bother to read my post before you responded to it?

6,200 posted on 09/19/2010 1:20:26 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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