Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
The Jews do not consider the Prophets on the par with the Torah. The Torah is eternal and was written by God before the world existed and only the Torah is the literal word of God. The Porphest simply repeat what is found in the Torah.
And, I think when we get to heaven, he will show us all the "what ifs" that we missed by not trusting him like he wanted us to. The "wood, hay and stubble" of our lives will not be our sins, but all the junk we did for our own glory and not for him.
I guess some Jews were just not Jewish enough. Oy Gevalt!
Excuse me, you have the wrong poster. I would never say something like that. You may wish to discuss it with the source.
Your tagline is a hoot!
The purpose of the hostile, demeaning, derogatory, insulting and condescending cross-examination if this:
By the repeated insults of word and manner, the Calvinists finally provoke the self-respect of the person they are demeaning. When he responds in kind they pounce and call him hypocritical or evil.
Then they say, We don't hate you, you despicable hypocrite whom we feel free to treat as though you were a prisoner and we the DA, we just hate your filthy religion.
There appears to be something about Calvinism and anger.
Steel stroked gently along the edge of a blade sharpens the blade. Two sledge hammers do not sharpen one another.
Well, I know where I’ll be in 1800 years. Hope to see you there! ;o)
Hey, ha ha, I recognize that. Also important to remember is that in a deterministic moral universe there can be no such things as gifts.
Perhaps they're not. You don't know and I don't know. But there is nothing in Scripture that says they aren't, and some that says they are.
"I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly." -- Psalm 22:10
The RCC catechism (1250) says that unless a parent baptizes their infant, those children cannot be a "child of God." --
"The Church and the parents would deny a child the priceless grace of becoming a child of God were they not to confer Baptism shortly after birth.51
So you have the parents electing their child, and not God.
I haven't found any Scripture for that one.
I'm surprised at you, Doc! You know that baptism has nothing to do with salvation:
From Romans 9: "Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God's purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls—she was told, ‘The older will serve the younger.’ Just as it is written: ‘Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.’”
So for a baby, baptized or not, if it is predestined unto election, it enjoys eternal bliss with our Lord and Savior for all eternity. But if the baby is "a vessel of wrath prepared for destruction" (again, Romans 9), then it burns in hell for all eternity.
This is disturbing for some. It's disturbing for me! However, Paul does assert in Romans 9: "But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’" 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?
From Romans 9: "Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God's purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls—she was told, ‘The older will serve the younger.’ Just as it is written: ‘Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.’”
"The Church and the parents would deny a child the priceless grace of becoming a child of God were they not to confer Baptism shortly after birth.51
So you have the parents electing their child, and not God.
Strange stuff, that RCC catechism.
I am satisfied God's grace can cover dying infants. After all, grace is free and unearned. Who does less to earn their salvation than an infant?
Sadly, the RCC doesn't believe that. Its catechism teaches parents elect their children through baptism which is just plain nutty.
Baptism is irrelevant. Again Romans 9, *and* the thief on the cross.
Dying infants predestined unto election, yes. But no scripture indicates that the unborn or those under some "age of accountability" are any more likely to be elect than a full-fledged adult.
I have a friend who is convinced his three daughters are all saved *not* because of any confession of faith on their part, but because of the scripture: "you and your entire household will be saved."
Christians can have a reasonable assurance their children are “children of God” because God gives them their children in the first place.
Apparently Roman Catholics don’t have that comfort unless they baptize their child, thereby effectively electing that child themselves.
The difference for Bible-believing Christians is that they know that God elects. God elects men and women to whom He gives children. His call.
Baptism does not confirm salvation. Baptism is a sign and seal of the promise He made to those who follow His Son.
As far as salvation is concerned, the WESTMINSTER CONFESSION OF FAITH agrees with you in its 28th chapter that baptism is not an absolute requirement of salvation.
VI. The efficacy of Baptism is not tied to that moment of time wherein it is administered;[16] yet, notwithstanding, by the right use of this ordinance, the grace promised is not only offered, but really exhibited, and conferred, by the Holy Ghost, to such (whether of age or infants) as that grace belongs unto, according to the counsel of God's own will, in His appointed time.[17]V. Although it is a great sin to contemn or neglect this ordinance,[13] yet grace and salvation are not so inseparably annexed unto it, as that no person can be regenerated, or saved, without it:[14] or, that all that are baptized are undoubtedly regenerated.[15]
I’ve believed that for a long time.
Thx.
Personally
I have absolutely no trouble believing the multiple reports from Heavenly visitations
that 100% OF ALL THE ABORTED BABIES ARE IN HEAVEN.
That’s the NATURE OF THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh . . .
I really do think that the awards for
unbridled anger on FR MUST rightly go to the well earned Rabid Clique sorts of RC’s.
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