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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: individualliberty
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To: metmom; 1000 silverlings; Quix; wmfights; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; RnMomof7; OLD REGGIE
1000SILVERLINGS: here's a picture of Rome's trinity from a church in Italy,(called the Trinity of Parma) notice Mary on the right hand of God, no Holy Spirit in sight

LOL. That is a GREAT example of the pecking order in Rome. The Holy Spirit is practically non-existent.

Calvin was right. Rome has usurped the office and purpose of the Holy Spirit and handed it over to Rome's magisterium who, in turn, has delegated that divine, spiritual responsibility to a fallen creature, Mary.

Rome cannot control the Holy Spirit; therefore Rome has deleted the Holy Spirit from its theology.

Rome is of the earth. Christians need to look up, to the "rock that is higher than I."

4,341 posted on 09/13/2010 2:51:55 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: metmom

Yep. Three makes “repeatedly.”

Nor would it be too far-fetched to assume there are other instances.


4,342 posted on 09/13/2010 2:53:18 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: wagglebee; 1000 silverlings
Incidently, the same webpage 1000silverlings uses also has this:
MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL ..... JESUS?

As this study shows, according to scriptures, Jesus is the angel of the LORD, the angel of God, the angel of the covenant, the Archangel Michael, who appeared time and again in the Old Testament to speak directly to His people. Michael is just another title for the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who is God in the flesh, the principle messenger of the gospel (archangel) to humanity, but He is not a created being.
Now, this isn't what you, 1000silverlings believe in, is it?
4,343 posted on 09/13/2010 2:53:32 PM PDT by Cronos (Κύριε ἐλέησον, Χρισ)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Legatus
Do note that "person" is a poor translation. It is more apter to say "personas" or hypostases (Personhood in the Trinity does not match the common Western understanding of "person" as used in the English language—it does not imply an "individual, self-actualized center of free will and conscious activity" Each hypostases is understood as having the one identical essence or nature, not merely similar natures.)

these three hypostases consistute the Τριάς
4,344 posted on 09/13/2010 3:00:33 PM PDT by Cronos (Κύριε ἐλέησον, Χρισ)
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To: metmom

it’s around God’s navel


4,345 posted on 09/13/2010 3:00:40 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Legatus; metmom; 1000 silverlings; Quix

1) Very cool trick. How did you make the red circle?

2) I actually like the Scriptural idea of a dove as being the Holy Spirit, but that’s not what the picture seems to be offering. That particular image could be one of a dozen things. It looks like it’s imprinted on the Father’s robe. It also looks like a simple decoration. Or maybe a candelabra.

3) The greater problem with the picture, if indeed that scribble is the Holy Spirit, is that it is a tiny, confusing representation of one person of the Trinity which demands equal size and import as God the Father and God the Son. And certainly Mary shouldn’t even be in the picture. She has nothing to do with the Trinity other than being the human vessel chosen by God to bring the Christ child to term.

All glory belongs to God. And as He tells us, He is a jealous God. Rome needs to repent of stealing the glory of the Creator and handing it over to the creature. That kind of error never ends well.


4,346 posted on 09/13/2010 3:02:28 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Cronos

Jesus called Him a Him


4,347 posted on 09/13/2010 3:03:12 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Legatus


The Holy Trinity, c. 1300 - 1350. English or Spanish. Alabaster. National Gallery of Art, Washington, D.C.

The normal depiction of the Trinity is an old man, Christ on the Cross and the Holy SPirit as a dove --> do you deny this historical depiction? you see the dove between the head of the Father and Christ on the Crucifix?
4,348 posted on 09/13/2010 3:03:32 PM PDT by Cronos (Κύριε ἐλέησον, Χρισ)
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To: 1000 silverlings

That’s just wrong.

9~)


4,349 posted on 09/13/2010 3:04:27 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Cronos

where’s Mary?


4,350 posted on 09/13/2010 3:04:46 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: D-fendr

It’s sheer ignorance...


4,351 posted on 09/13/2010 3:05:28 PM PDT by Cronos (Κύριε ἐλέησον, Χρισ)
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To: Legatus

Be stunned.

It looked like a candlestick holder to me.

I guess I need stronger glasses.....

>:(


4,352 posted on 09/13/2010 3:05:28 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

LOL!

What a theological discussion that could start.

It’s bad enough when people argue over whether Adam had a navel or not....


4,353 posted on 09/13/2010 3:07:01 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wmfights
This is actually pretty interesting, I didn't know it earlier:
Hiscox, however, doesn’t inform his readers that the Waldenses for the most part believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary, the effectiveness of the sacraments, infant baptism, that “the Sacrifice [of the Mass], that is of the bread and wine, after the consecration are the body and blood of Jesus Christ”, that good deeds of the faithful may benefit the dead, to name just a few. That Baptist successionists can claim the Waldenses as their ancestors-sharing a common belief and practice-is quite untenable, if not disingenuous.

4,354 posted on 09/13/2010 3:08:51 PM PDT by Cronos (Κύριε ἐλέησον, Χρισ)
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To: Cronos

I believe what the bible says about michael, that he is an angel, ie a created being. Consequently we are not to pray to him as the bible forbids it. Perhaps you have me confused with Catholics who apparently, have decided to have their own traditions, and therefore pray to him if they feel like it.


4,355 posted on 09/13/2010 3:10:32 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; 1000 silverlings; Quix; wmfights; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; RnMomof7; ...
Courtesy Legatus:

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4,356 posted on 09/13/2010 3:11:09 PM PDT by Cronos (Κύριε ἐλέησον, Χρισ)
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To: 1000 silverlings
I have referred to YOUR link, which says that Michael = Jesus ==> since you referred to that link, do you agree with it's beliefs like this?
4,357 posted on 09/13/2010 3:12:21 PM PDT by Cronos (Κύριε ἐλέησον, Χρισ)
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To: Cronos

so, I didn’t write it, I just found that interesting picture thanks to google


4,358 posted on 09/13/2010 3:13:57 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Cronos

Answered here...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2578704/posts?page=4346#4346


4,359 posted on 09/13/2010 3:15:14 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Cronos; 1000 silverlings; metmom; Quix

And NOWHERE in that statue is Mary.


4,360 posted on 09/13/2010 3:17:06 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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