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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


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To: Religion Moderator

THANKS.

I think what I did was that I failed to realize when I wasn’t “RESPONDING TO MONTFORT” ‘as Jesus’ any longer.


4,181 posted on 09/13/2010 8:53:39 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: metmom
the plain meaning would have been understood.

I believe that they are part and parcel of the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION BECAUSE they will be extremely persuasive about “creating man,” bioengineering all the religious greats of history—FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSES—including Jesus—performing miracles through their technologies—and purportedly having very convincing 3D holographic “histories” “proving” such.

I believe that they are part and parcel of the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION BECAUSE they will be [in the future] extremely persuasive about “creating man,”[in the past] bioengineering all the religious greats of history—FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSES—including Jesus—performing miracles through their technologies—and purportedly having very convincing 3D holographic “histories” “proving” such.

The critters have already claimed to government officials that THEY DID [PAST TENSE--AS IN BEFORE THE PRESENT--AS IN, THE PAST--LIKE HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO! HELLO?! SHEESH] BIOENGINEER--IN THE PAST ALL THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS OF HISTORY INCLUDING JESUS FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSES. GET IT RIGHT WHEN YOU QUOTE ME OR FORGET IT.

Even leaving off the colored fonts, there is precious little plain meaning in this, the rest of the post or many of the following posts by the same author.

I agree going off without clarification was wrong, if you agree that clarification is still whacko and only slightly less garbled.

4,182 posted on 09/13/2010 8:53:59 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Quix
It is inaccurate to say I called Mary a pet rabbit.

Your analogy extended to Mary being in a cage out in the back yard. I think a more fair analogy would have been to address me with "that's like saying, I DON'T LOVE YOU BECAUSE I DON'T LOVE YOUR MOTHER" except that might have gotten too close to the point.

I honor you to come to your house for dinner when I go straight to the back yard, climb in the rabbit hutch and chow down on some carrots with your pet rabbit as a way of honoring you. that would have made more sense as "I honor you to come to your house for dinner when I sit down at the table and eat with your mother as a way of honoring you"... Well yeah, if my mother lives in my house, if you sit down with her you sit down with me.

As it happens if you did have a rabbit out back I'd probably pay it a visit and (horrors) maybe even comment on what a nice bunny it is. Now if it happened that the bunny in question was your mother...

4,183 posted on 09/13/2010 8:55:08 AM PDT by Legatus (From the desire of being esteemed, Deliver me, Jesus.)
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To: Legatus; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

Hmmmmm . . .

I don’t know how to express the

“LOVE ME LOVE MY DOG”

mentality, meme, mind-set, !!!DEMAND!!!

that comes across in so much of the Maryolatry stuff

any better on such scores.

IT IS AS THOUGH the mentality INSISTS,

it is

NOT POSSIBLE TO WORSHIP JESUS WITHOUT WORSHIPING MARY OR AT LEAST ROUTING THE WORSHIP THROUGH FED-EX-MARY.

THAT’S OUTRAGEOUS, HORRIFIC UNBIBLICAL IDOLATROUS, BLASPHEMOUS NONSENSE.

There’s no way to white-wash that.

It is very difficult to even discuss it in polite, little finger and tea-cup raised hands terms.


4,184 posted on 09/13/2010 9:02:18 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: metmom
You wrote:
all the Catholics who (yatta yatta) ... YOur hyumble correspondent always gets restrictive and non-restrictive relative clauses mixed up. But yeah, what you wrote was equivalent not to "All the Catholics," but rather to, "every one of the set of (a) Cat'licks and (b) false accusers of Quix.

The only comment I would make then in partial mitigation is one of Mad Dawg's Laws for counseling, to wit:

Avoid attributing to malice what can be explained by stupidity, thoughtlessness, or incompetence.
Feel free to use this, as long as it's attributed to moi (even though I stole it.)
4,185 posted on 09/13/2010 9:03:11 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Quix

Have you read much of J2P2’s stuff? I think his devotion to IHS is unimpeachable. AND he was brilliant (and presumably still is.)


4,186 posted on 09/13/2010 9:03:58 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: metmom

Now, if I may say so, THAT’s a GREAT reason to disagree with the doctrine. Of course, you’ll be amazed to learn that I disagree (WOW! Who saw THAT coming?), but we can get our teeth into that.


4,187 posted on 09/13/2010 9:06:02 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Quix
Maybe someone needs to check the ‘Holy’ water.

Wait. Are you saying I shouldn't have put Stolichnaya in there?

4,188 posted on 09/13/2010 9:08:56 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: D-fendr; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

Let’s see if merely spacing can help clarify the text without altering the text. I have already noted that my stream of consciousness style is not always crystal clear and easy.


I believe that they are

part and parcel of

the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION

BECAUSE they will be extremely persuasive

about “creating man,” bioengineering all the religious greats of history

—FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSES—including Jesus—

performing miracles through their technologies—

and purportedly having very convincing 3D holographic “histories” “proving” such.

I believe that they are part and parcel of the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION

BECAUSE they will be [in the future]

extremely persuasive

about “creating man,”[in the past]

bioengineering all the religious greats of history—

FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSES—including Jesus—

performing miracles through their technologies—and purportedly having very convincing 3D holographic “histories” “proving” such.

The critters have already claimed

to government officials

that THEY DID [PAST TENSE—AS IN BEFORE THE PRESENT—AS IN, THE PAST—LIKE HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO! HELLO?! SHEESH]

BIOENGINEER—IN THE PAST

ALL THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS OF HISTORY INCLUDING JESUS FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSES.

GET IT RIGHT WHEN YOU QUOTE ME OR FORGET IT.


Sometimes I think my writing must be convoluted so only some folks will dig the nuggets out.


4,189 posted on 09/13/2010 9:09:30 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Quix
I have already noted that my stream of consciousness style is not always crystal clear and easy.

For me it's both the style and the content.

Sometimes I think my writing must be convoluted so only some folks will dig the nuggets out.

Yeah. That's it.

4,190 posted on 09/13/2010 9:12:33 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Mad Dawg

True. True.


4,191 posted on 09/13/2010 9:12:33 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: metmom; Gamecock
They just took off with it and ran with it, backslapping and high fiving each other over it as if it were written in stone, not to mention that they then proceeded to paint ALL Protestants with the the same broad brush.

I think it's Gamecock who has a catalog of when we Catholics started the trash-talking. Who knows, maybe it's a representative sample, maybe not. I don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of who started it.

Maybe we can acknowledge that and, while being patient with one another, can agree that the real problem is who's going to stop it.

4,192 posted on 09/13/2010 9:12:49 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

I was quite fond of what I read in public.

I don’t remember how much of his publically published writings I read. Not tons.


4,193 posted on 09/13/2010 9:13:13 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Mad Dawg

I have no idea what that is.


4,194 posted on 09/13/2010 9:14:14 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Religion Moderator

Sorry, just read this.


4,195 posted on 09/13/2010 9:15:26 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Mad Dawg

There is that, alright.


4,196 posted on 09/13/2010 9:16:55 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Mad Dawg
That’ll make it twice-blesssed
4,197 posted on 09/13/2010 9:17:20 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Quix

Stolichnaya is good (but not great) Russian vodka.


4,198 posted on 09/13/2010 9:30:12 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: maryz; Legatus

I second it :-)


4,199 posted on 09/13/2010 9:34:03 AM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Mad Dawg; Legatus
You're much too reasonable. :-)

You talkinna ME?

That's a characterization rarely made of me.

Sadly, I wasn't talking to you, but to Legatus. However, you are also reasonable at times. :-)
4,200 posted on 09/13/2010 9:47:13 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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