Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
THANKS.
I think what I did was that I failed to realize when I wasn’t “RESPONDING TO MONTFORT” ‘as Jesus’ any longer.
I believe that they are part and parcel of the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION BECAUSE they will be extremely persuasive about creating man, bioengineering all the religious greats of historyFOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSESincluding Jesusperforming miracles through their technologiesand purportedly having very convincing 3D holographic histories proving such.Even leaving off the colored fonts, there is precious little plain meaning in this, the rest of the post or many of the following posts by the same author.I believe that they are part and parcel of the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION BECAUSE they will be [in the future] extremely persuasive about creating man,[in the past] bioengineering all the religious greats of historyFOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSESincluding Jesusperforming miracles through their technologiesand purportedly having very convincing 3D holographic histories proving such.
The critters have already claimed to government officials that THEY DID [PAST TENSE--AS IN BEFORE THE PRESENT--AS IN, THE PAST--LIKE HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO! HELLO?! SHEESH] BIOENGINEER--IN THE PAST ALL THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS OF HISTORY INCLUDING JESUS FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSES. GET IT RIGHT WHEN YOU QUOTE ME OR FORGET IT.
I agree going off without clarification was wrong, if you agree that clarification is still whacko and only slightly less garbled.
Your analogy extended to Mary being in a cage out in the back yard. I think a more fair analogy would have been to address me with "that's like saying, I DON'T LOVE YOU BECAUSE I DON'T LOVE YOUR MOTHER" except that might have gotten too close to the point.
I honor you to come to your house for dinner when I go straight to the back yard, climb in the rabbit hutch and chow down on some carrots with your pet rabbit as a way of honoring you. that would have made more sense as "I honor you to come to your house for dinner when I sit down at the table and eat with your mother as a way of honoring you"... Well yeah, if my mother lives in my house, if you sit down with her you sit down with me.
As it happens if you did have a rabbit out back I'd probably pay it a visit and (horrors) maybe even comment on what a nice bunny it is. Now if it happened that the bunny in question was your mother...
Hmmmmm . . .
I don’t know how to express the
“LOVE ME LOVE MY DOG”
mentality, meme, mind-set, !!!DEMAND!!!
that comes across in so much of the Maryolatry stuff
any better on such scores.
IT IS AS THOUGH the mentality INSISTS,
it is
NOT POSSIBLE TO WORSHIP JESUS WITHOUT WORSHIPING MARY OR AT LEAST ROUTING THE WORSHIP THROUGH FED-EX-MARY.
THAT’S OUTRAGEOUS, HORRIFIC UNBIBLICAL IDOLATROUS, BLASPHEMOUS NONSENSE.
There’s no way to white-wash that.
It is very difficult to even discuss it in polite, little finger and tea-cup raised hands terms.
The only comment I would make then in partial mitigation is one of Mad Dawg's Laws for counseling, to wit:
Avoid attributing to malice what can be explained by stupidity, thoughtlessness, or incompetence.Feel free to use this, as long as it's attributed to moi (even though I stole it.)
Have you read much of J2P2’s stuff? I think his devotion to IHS is unimpeachable. AND he was brilliant (and presumably still is.)
Now, if I may say so, THAT’s a GREAT reason to disagree with the doctrine. Of course, you’ll be amazed to learn that I disagree (WOW! Who saw THAT coming?), but we can get our teeth into that.
Wait. Are you saying I shouldn't have put Stolichnaya in there?
Let’s see if merely spacing can help clarify the text without altering the text. I have already noted that my stream of consciousness style is not always crystal clear and easy.
I believe that they are
part and parcel of
the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION
BECAUSE they will be extremely persuasive
about creating man, bioengineering all the religious greats of history
FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSESincluding Jesus
performing miracles through their technologies
and purportedly having very convincing 3D holographic histories proving such.
I believe that they are part and parcel of the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION
BECAUSE they will be [in the future]
extremely persuasive
about creating man,[in the past]
bioengineering all the religious greats of history
FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSESincluding Jesus
performing miracles through their technologiesand purportedly having very convincing 3D holographic histories proving such.
The critters have already claimed
to government officials
that THEY DID [PAST TENSE—AS IN BEFORE THE PRESENT—AS IN, THE PAST—LIKE HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO! HELLO?! SHEESH]
BIOENGINEER—IN THE PAST
ALL THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS OF HISTORY INCLUDING JESUS FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSES.
GET IT RIGHT WHEN YOU QUOTE ME OR FORGET IT.
Sometimes I think my writing must be convoluted so only some folks will dig the nuggets out.
For me it's both the style and the content.
Sometimes I think my writing must be convoluted so only some folks will dig the nuggets out.
Yeah. That's it.
True. True.
I think it's Gamecock who has a catalog of when we Catholics started the trash-talking. Who knows, maybe it's a representative sample, maybe not. I don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of who started it.
Maybe we can acknowledge that and, while being patient with one another, can agree that the real problem is who's going to stop it.
I was quite fond of what I read in public.
I don’t remember how much of his publically published writings I read. Not tons.
I have no idea what that is.
Sorry, just read this.
There is that, alright.
Stolichnaya is good (but not great) Russian vodka.
I second it :-)
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