Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[Legatus]

Your series of responses are, and I'm trying to be charitable to the point of error here, all over the place.

At one point early on you wrote: "Yet folks are arrogantly defining and describing Heavenly existentials without a visit?" Then you went on to do precisely that with "Loving Mamma did her duty. Now she’s teaching aborted babies the ways of God. End of story."

Then you go on to disagree with absolutely everyone including Luther, Calvin, Zwingli and Wesley (who all believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary)... for no reason I can really understand.

Then you call Mary Our Lord's pet rabbit. Strange that, I wonder how Our Lord feels about that. I know that if you called my mother a pet rabbit I'd escort you through the front window by the seat of your pants. I think that for your opinions to work then Our Lord would have to be different from us in more ways than just sin. Sort of a "well He was man, but not really, it was more of an act".

THEN something very weird happens, you appear to start (and I can't phrase this any other way) "channeling" God. A lot. "Mamma's first job with me is done." "GET YOUR PRIORITIES RIGHT BEFORE ME", etc. Some of it I understood as Quix speaking for Christ but other parts looked like Quix speaking as Christ... or more accurately Christ speaking as Quix.

So there was a whole bunch of yelling, shouting and hysteria that didn't bring anything new to the table. What you have written lately has led me to more seriously and deeply explore Catholic Marian piety and what I find is that it's beautifully Christocentric, more so than I had ever appreciated.

It's times like this that I humorously wonder if you aren't really a secret Vatican agent after all, I think you've done more to advance the Catholic Faith than anything I've ever written.

[Religion Moderator]

THEY HAVE THEIR PRIORITIES RIGHT BEFORE GOD. YOU DON'T.

Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

[Quix]

True.

More than that . . . unkindness in the face of ridicule . . .

is a poor showing of the quality of one’s Christianity.

[Quix]

INDEED.

[Quix]

Time will tell.

It is inaccurate to say I called Mary a pet rabbit.

Are we going to go through another 100 posts of RC’s screaming about me calling Mary a pet rabbit when I did not?

I clearly made an analogy. Deal with the analogy. Misstating what I said is not dealing with it.

I’m glad I didn’t say pit bull! Sheesh.

[Quix]

Montfort asked Jesus a series of questions.

I answered as I believe Jesus would have/did/has.

Ask HIM if I’m inaccurate.

[Quix]

Yelling, shouting and hysteria?

I didn’t hear nor see any.

There was a lot of emphasis on some words and phrases.

I don’t think my heart rate nor breathing rate inceased at all.

I did feel some increased forcefulness in my spirit when writing some parts.

[Quix]

Roman Catholic Maryolatry

is ANYTHING BUT

CHRISTOCENTRIC.

Unless, perhaps, one is using the

VATICAN DAFFYNITIONARY for “Christocentric.”

[Quix]

OOOOPS FORGOT ABOUT THE YOU business.

Sorry.

[D-fendr]

I didn’t recall at the time I wrote the post who all participated in that… I don’t care to read back through again.

Yet it was fine to accuse others and demand apology without doing the work to find out. You don't even know if it was more than one - and you accuse the "group."

[D-fendr]

The post is still unintelligible. And he video of the “alien” or the demon creating the illusion of the alien, whatever, is still Loony Tunes.

[D-fendr]

And my point was you wouldn’t work to make the loony seem less loony for someone who did that.

[Quix]

Is there some part of

‘deliberately choose the group and avoid focusing on individuals’

that is difficult to understand?

[Quix]

Maybe I could put it another way.

I go after a

MENTALITY, MIND-SET, PERSPECTIVE, NONSENSE ASSERTIONS, ETC. OF DELIBERATELY CONSTRUED AMORPHOUS, ILL-DEFINED COLLECTIONS OF RC’S.

and not, per se, indivual RC’s by the throat.

The latter is the RC rabid clique mode with Proddys.

That’s not my mode.

I earnestly indeavor to leave individual stuff to God. He knows all the particulars in each individual case. I merely deal with the pontifications that represent perspectives of collections of RC’s.

More than that, I use the representations here to represent thousands of RC’s, including non-FREEPER RC’s. I figure that any collection of assertions hereon MUST represent a lot of RC’s beyond the FRoman Catholics. AND THOSE clusters of RC’s’ assertions are what I write about and who I write to.

[Quix]

I’m only partially responsible for reading comprehension problems.

All the Proddys understood.

Maybe someone needs to check the ‘Holy’ water.

[Quix]

Romanek’s story has lots of elements that stand all on their own.

Most of those elements have not been successfully debunked.

I think he’s wrong about the good/evil issues. I gave his wife Guy Malone’s site in the hopes they’d check it out and stop all the abduction and visitation stuff.

I suspect that they are so immersed in it and that it is such an intense part of who he is at this point that they won’t do that.

[D-fendr]

You made a specific accusation in need of apology - to the wrong people, without bothering to be accurate. There’s no excuse for that.

[maryz]

Thank you for that post!

[Religion Moderator]

Stop making this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

[Quix]

Here's a corrected version.

Please delete the former and let this one stand:

Scrupulous devotees are those who imagine they are slighting the Son by honouring the Mother. They fear that by exalting Mary they are belittling Jesus.

AND THEY ARE RIGHT.

I HAVE HONORED MAMMA AND WILL HONOR MAMMA WITH ALL THE HONOR DUE HER AND ALL THE HONOR SHE HAS THE SLIGHTEST INTEREST IN. GET IT RIGHT. MAMA HAS NO! INTEREST IN HUMAN PRAISE AND HONOR BECAUSE HER DEVOTION IS UTTERLY TO THE FATHER, SON, SPIRIT. BELIEVERS MUST ABANDON THIS FAWNING OVER MAMA. THEN BELIEVERS WILL please her.

They cannot bear to see people giving to our Lady the praises due to her and which the Fathers of the Church have lavished upon her.

THEY HAVE THEIR PRIORITIES RIGHT BEFORE GOD. Millions of RC's obviously DON'T. THEY MUST GET IT RIGHT. TIME IS RUNNING OUT.

Those church leaders fawning over Mama had a lot to answer for. Idolatry is not a minor sin. They blew it. CHRISTIAN LEADERS NOW MUST GET IT RIGHT. Time is running out.

It annoys them to see more people kneeling before Mary's altar than before the Blessed Sacrament, as if these acts were at variance with each other, or as if those who were praying to our Lady were not praying through her to Jesus. They do not want us to speak too often of her or to pray so often to her.

AND THEY ARE FAR MORE RIGHT THAN the Mary focused ON SUCH MATTERS. MY WORD TEACHES Believers TO ADORINGLY/WORSHIPFULLY BOW BEFORE NO ONE BUT THE FATHER. READ THE TEN COMMANDMENTS! GET IT RIGHT. TIME IS RUNNING OUT.