Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
As best I can tell, the 1.2 billion figure originated with Dr. E.
In post #3554 I gave several sources that APPROXIMATE that figure, but they are working with numbers from 2008 so the actual number may very well be 1.2 billion.
So, I'll ask you, do YOU have a verifiable source that lists a significantly different number or are you just saying it's a lie because you would prefer it to be false?
I think it's hard *not* to see Mary, Christ and the Body of Christ in this description.
That is completely off base and untrue.
What in the world would prompt a person to make such a hateful remark? Hatred of non-Catholics?
OLD REGGIE -
You told me several years ago not to post to you. Why are you posting to me? Did you forget you don’t want to hear what I have to say?
For some people, denial of the Blessed Mother's significance is an article of faith.
The true invisible church has unity and transcends denominations. For instance, My Spirit agrees with almost everything you post metmom.
I agree that this is the standard Amill interpretation.
Non-Catholics have NEVER been a problem, the problem is a small but highly obnoxious and bigoted group of ANTI-Catholics.
This group professes to be Christians, but their open endorsement of various heresies (such as Arianism and Nestorianism and denial of the Holy Trinity) suggests that many of them are not Christians at all. In fact, I believe that many of these bigots are either witting or unwitting agents of Satan.
No, that would be a personal attack.
Well said.
I will defend your honor and integrity while, at the same time, say you are frequently in error (by my standards).
I believe the "some" 1000 silverlings refers to is a single individual who has made the same disenguous post time after time.
Further, I believe you know that very well. It's perhaps time to police a few of your "out of control" compatriots even if by freepmail.
If you insert it as a trope into the Agnus Dei I will personally testify against you at the next session of the Inquisition.
I post the words of Jesus. You post the words of Thomas Aquinas.
Do you give them equal weight?
"If forgers and malefactors are put to death by the secular power, there is much more reason for excommunicating and even putting to death one convicted of heresy." Saint Thomas Aquinas
It’s believed to be Petra, in Israel, and it could be with divine intervention instead of with the help of the US.
That’s generally recognized by Bible prophecy scholars as well.
For someone whose very life depends on the sweet potato, sweet potato for breakfast, sweet potato for lunch, sweet potato for dinner, sweet potato for a midnight snack, it gets the message across.
I love that word. Would I be out of place if I used that single word as a reply when I felt it was appropriate? :-)
A counterpart to the accusations against Calvin? Do they cancel each other out?
Yes. And just to be fair I also found a Catholic website, the Catholic Encyclopedia, which also casts doubt on the Ignatius Epistles.
"... Of later collections of Ignatian letters which have been preserved, the oldest is known as the "long recension". This collection, the author of which is unknown, dates from the latter part of the fourth century. It contains the seven genuine and six spurious letters, but even the genuine epistles were greatly interpolated to lend weight to the personal views of its author. For this reason they are incapable of bearing witness to the original form. The spurious letters in this recension are those that purport to be from Ignatius."
Catholic Encyclopedia-Ignatius Of Antioch
Strange how you missed this.
Unfortunately there are dingbats out there and people who love to see the monies they can make by promoting conspiracy theories etc. Which unfortunately makes it difficult to discern what is reality from that manufactured or promoted for monitary gain. ....and the fruit-loops who go off into left field often fall for it all....then it runs the web and every other fruit loop adds their stuff.
I don’t envy you trying to dig out what is real...and those who do likewise...but there is much out there that is not reality as you know.
INDEED. IT’S A MASSIVE CHORE AND A VERY COMPLEX CHORE.
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